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800 Grand Concourse Ave Unit 1DS 🏢 Co-op
D- Composite 35.08
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The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • ARV discount +7.5/15.0
  • 1% rule +5.6/10.0
  • Appreciation +5.3/10.0
  • Schools +5.0/10.0
  • Livability +3.8/5.0
  • Rent growth +3.1/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • Cash flow +2.2/30.0
  • DSCR +0.0/10.0

$399,000

800 Grand Concourse Ave Unit 1DS · New York, NY 10451
2 bd · 2.0 ba · 1,120 sqft · Condo · 365 Days on market
Built 1954

🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Listing remarks

If you’re looking for a spacious Co-op unit in the Bronx, you have found it! Pack your bags and just move right into this massive, fully renovated 2- bedroom 2 bath apartment. With 1,120 square feet of living space and ceilings 10 feet high, you will enjoy a large living space, plenty of closets, a dining area and a beautiful island. The kitchen comes equipped with brand-new stainless-steel appliances including a touch screen gas range stove! Check out the beautiful, custom-made details the radiator covers have to offer. If that isn’t enough, the unit also has 9 brand new sound reducing windows! This unit is located on the second level of a 24- hour doorman, elevator bui

Key facts

  • Garage
  • Built 1954
  • Listed 365 days

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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🏢 Co-op / cooperative unit. The $399,000 price buys shares in the cooperative corporation, not the real estate itself — so it isn't comparable to a fee-simple sale price, and the cashflow / cap-rate / 1%-rule cards below (which assume you own the property and can rent it out) don't apply here. Expect board approval and a monthly maintenance fee on top of the price.

What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 2-bed/2.0-bath condo listed at $399k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $-1k ($-17k/yr) — negative.
  • The deal already cash-flows at list — no discount required.
  • Meets the 1% rule at list price ($4k rent vs $399k).
  • Recommended offer: $351k (12.0% below list) — sets the bar for market timing.
  • Cap rate 2.0% vs local median 2.6% in New York — below-typical yield; the buyer is paying a premium for something (appreciation thesis, condition, location) that the cap rate doesn't capture.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 75/100 on livability (#268 in NY, #4,188 nationally) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: amenities A+, commute A+, health & safety A; Watch: crime F, cost of living F.
  • Market conditions: Rents rising (+2.6%/yr); 69 active listings in the ZIP; 4 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals leasing fast (median 12d on market — plan ~1-2 weeks tenant-placement turnaround); lower-income renter base — watch delinquency; 6,929 units permitted in Bronx County in 2024 (6,829 in 5+ unit buildings).
  • At $4,238/mo this rent would consume 131% of the median local household income ($39k/yr) (locally 6917% of renters already pay >50% of income on rent) — very limited rent-growth headroom before tenants either downsize or default.

Forward outlook

  • In year one you build about $5k of equity ($3k loan paydown + $3k appreciation (0.7% local appreciation)).
  • Bronx County population projected at +21% by 2050 — long-run rental-demand tailwind backs the buy-and-hold thesis.
  • By year 6, paydown + projected appreciation supports a ~$32k cash-out refi (75% LTV) — recoverable capital for the next deal without selling this one.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 365 days — a 12% lower offer ($351k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Watch-outs: HOA is 48% of rent; built in 1954 — expect roof / HVAC / electrical / plumbing capex.
  • Climate carrying-cost: moderate flood risk; major wind risk, 27% chance of damaging wind over 30y; extreme-heat days projected 7→14/yr by 2055 (HVAC capex compounding) — expect insurance premiums to compound above CPI over the hold.
Recommended offer $351,120 (12.0% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
  2. It's been on market 365 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 12% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
  3. Built in 1954 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
  4. What does the HOA fee cover, when was the last increase, and are there any pending special assessments or reserve-fund shortfalls?
  5. Any open or pending special assessments — roof, HVAC, plumbing, elevator, façade? What's the per-unit balance and payoff schedule, and is the seller paying it off at close or rolling it to the buyer?
  6. Why hasn't it sold? Are there any deal-killer items the seller is aware of (foundation, flood, title, zoning, code violations)?
  7. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  8. Schools are B-rated — typically a magnet for longer-tenancy family renters. What's the average tenant stay here, and is there a school-zone premium baked into asking?
  9. Crime grade is F in this area — have there been break-ins, vandalism, or insurance claims at this property in the last 3 years? What carrier currently insures it and at what premium?
  10. The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
  11. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  12. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  13. How much new apartment / multifamily construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply (>2% of stock underway) typically softens rents 12–24 months out; light construction supports rent growth.

Investment metrics

1% rule
1.06%
Cap rate
1.99%
Cash-on-cash
-15.36%
DSCR
0.32
GRM
7.8

CMA / ARV

No comps found within radius.

Projected returns pro-forma

0.67% appreciation · 2.57% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
-16.6%
Equity multiple
0.19×
Total profit
$-90,612
Equity at exit
$129,341
10-year hold
IRR
-10.1%
Equity multiple
-0.17×
Total profit
$-131,239
Equity at exit
$166,688

Cash invested: $111,720 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (CITY)
0 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
State New York
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
County
— inherits STATE
City New York
0 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+34
Rent Stabilization Code; HSTPA; 6+ months in housing court.

ZIP-level market 10451

Home prices YoY
0.7%
Rents YoY
2.6%
Active inventory
69
Price-to-rent
7.8×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$4,238 medium interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$2,092
Tax est. 1.5%
$499 /mo · $5,985/yr
Insurance
$166
HOA est. from 1 same-building comp
$2,021
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$890
Net cashflow
$-1,430

Break-even live

Break-even rent $6,049
Max offer price $192,038
Occupancy floor

Sensitivity live

Price -10% $-1,155 -5% $-1,292 +0% $-1,430 +5% $-1,568 +10% $-1,706
Rent -10% $-1,765 -5% $-1,598 +0% $-1,430 +5% $-1,263 +10% $-1,095
Rate -1.0pp $-1,229 -0.5pp $-1,329 base $-1,430 +0.5pp $-1,534 +1.0pp $-1,639

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$99,750
Closing costs
$11,970
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Rent comps 4 comps

AddressBedsBaths SqftRent$/sqft DOM Units Dist
2413 3rd Ave Bronx, NY 1.0–3.0 1.0–2.0 857 $3,948 $4.60 12d 23 1.21mi
5 Lincoln Ave Bronx, NY 1.0–3.0 1.0–2.5 1011 $5,134 $5.08 2d 183 1.28mi
132 W 134th St New York, NY 2.0 1.0 750 $4,500 $6.00 25d 1 1.31mi
300 W 135th St Unit 9G New York, NY 3.0 2.0 1032 $5,500 $5.33 5d 1 1.41mi

HOA detail condo

Monthly dues
$0 · $0/yr
Likely covers
gasdoorman
Assessments
None detected in remarks — confirm with the listing agent.

Listing history 2 events

  1. 2025-01-13
    status Pending
  2. 2024-01-13
    listed $399,000 Active

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 5/10 Major FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 14% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 1/10 Low
  • 🌡 Heat 6/10 Major 7 d/yr ≥99°F today · 14 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 6/10 Major 27% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
  • 🫁 Air quality 4/10 Moderate 5 unhealthy d/yr today · 6 by 30 yrs out

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$50,858
− Mortgage interest
−$22,350
− Property taxes
−$5,985
− Insurance
−$1,995
− Repairs & maintenance
−$4,069
− Management
−$4,069
− HOA
−$24,252
− Depreciation
−$11,607
Taxable loss
−$23,469
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
+$5,633
After-tax cash flow
$-11,531/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

No district data.

Livability — New York

Score
75/100
State rank
#268
US rank
#4188

Category grades

Amenities A+ Commute A+ Cost of living F Crime F Employment A- Housing C+ Health & safety A User ratings A

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
New York, NY
County
Bronx County · 1,197,324 people
City population
7,731,280
Metro
New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA
Population (ZIP)
50,942
Household income
$38,770
Rent vs Own
86.4% rent · 13.6% own
Severe rent burden
6917.0

Population outlook (Bronx County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
1,607,353 people
By 2030
1,681,852 · +4.6%
By 2040
1,824,421 · +13.5%
By 2050
1,945,470 · +21.0%
By 2075
2,187,887 · +36.1%
By 2100
2,244,136 · +39.6%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Diverse neighborhood (Simpson 0.58)
Race & ethnicity
Hispanic / Latino 51% Black 40% Two or more races 12% White 6% Asian 1%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Mexican 3% Puerto Rican 14% Dominican 24%
Common ancestry
Scotch-Irish 1%
Foreign-born
29% · Canada, United Kingdom, China
Languages at home
46% English-only · Spanish 42% French/Haitian/Cajun 3% Arabic 1%

Political lean MEDSL · Bronx

2024 margin
Solid D (+45.4) · D 72.7% · R 27.3%
2008→2024 swing
-32.3pp toward R · 2008: 77.8pp · 2024: 45.4pp
All cycles
2024: D+45.4 2020: D+67.6 2016: D+79.1 2012: D+82.9 2008: D+77.8

Not yet ingested

Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▲ 0.67%
Current HPI
102.1498
Rent YoY
▲ 2.57%
Metro
New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA
State GDP YoY
▲ 2.60%
F500 in state
92

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

2 events — show timeline
  • 2025-01-13 Pending OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2024-01-13 Listed $399,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid

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Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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