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8345 Whisper Trace Way #102
B+ Composite 75.09
Why this score? — see what drove the B+ grade

The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • Cash flow +30.0/30.0
  • 1% rule +10.0/10.0
  • DSCR +10.0/10.0
  • ARV discount +7.5/15.0
  • Schools +5.0/10.0
  • Appreciation +4.3/10.0
  • Rent growth +3.3/5.0
  • Livability +2.5/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0

$299,000

8345 Whisper Trace Way #102 · Marco Shores-Hammock Bay, FL 34114
3 bd · 2.0 ba · 1,413 sqft · Condo public records · 88 Days on market
Built 1998 $971/mo HOA · 16% of rent

🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Listing remarks MLS

This charming move-in-ready coach home in the prestigious Fiddler's Creek community features three spacious bedrooms and two full baths, boasting a fully updated kitchen with modern coach-style design. Offering exceptional privacy in a friendly, intimate neighborhood setting, the home provides seamless low maintenance living with access to a resort-style community pool and other amenities. Ideally situated between vibrant Downtown Naples and the pristine beaches of Marco Island, Fiddler's Creek enjoys a prime location near the Marco Island Executive Airport, world-class beaches, premier shopping, fine dining, and boating opportunities. Residents benefit from quick, convenient access to Naples' renowned Fifth Avenue South and Naples International Airport, all within a beautifully maintained, gated master-planned community renowned for its natural sanctuary, lush preserves, and luxurious lifestyle.

Key facts

  • Natural sanctuary
  • Prime location
  • Lush preserves

Tags

FULLY UPDATED KITCHENRESORT-STYLE COMMUNITY POOLPRIME LOCATIONGATED MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITYNATURAL SANCTUARYLUSH PRESERVES

Property features AI

Finance

  • Other: Dock lease available for boat access; Deeded property restrictions: no commercial, no RV, no truck
  • Financial info: Total units in complex: 132; units in building: 12; 1 unit per floor; building has 2 floors
  • HOA & community: Professional management; Quarterly mandatory club fee; Quarterly condo fee; Club and resort-style community amenities including beach club access, golf course (golf equity), marina, full service spa, fitness center (attended), exercise room, tennis, pickleball, bocce, putting green, restaurant, clubhouse, community room, community spa/hot tub, sauna, play area, sidewalks, streetlights, underground utilities; Maintenance covers cable, insurance, internet/WiFi access, irrigation water, lawn/land maintenance, legal/accounting, manager, exterior pest control, reserves, sewer and water; One-time mandatory club fee and other one-time fees apply

Exterior

  • Parking: Detached carport (1 car)
  • Security: Gated community with guard at gate and patrols
  • Utilities: Central water; Central sewer; Cable available
  • Home design: Residential carriage/coach style; Low rise (1-3 stories); Rear exposure facing east; Located in Fiddler's Creek community (Whisper Trace sub-condo)
  • Construction: Concrete block construction; Stucco exterior; Tile roof; Impact resistant windows; Built in 1998
  • Exterior features: Automatic sprinkler system; Landscaped area and preserve views; Zero lot line

Interior

  • Kitchen: Pantry; Dishwasher; Disposal; Microwave; Range; Refrigerator/Freezer
  • Bedrooms: 3 bedrooms (split bedroom floor plan)
  • Flooring: Carpet; Tile
  • Bathrooms: 2 full bathrooms; Master bath with dual sinks and shower (no tub)
  • Heating & cooling: Central electric heat; Central electric cooling
  • Interior features: Cable prewire; Foyer; Pantry; Smoke detectors; Laundry in residence; Screened lanai/porch; Furnished
  • Laundry & utility: Washer and dryer in unit

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 3-bed/2.0-bath condo listed at $299k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $2k ($19k/yr) — positive.
  • The deal already cash-flows at list — no discount required.
  • Meets the 1% rule at list price ($6k rent vs $299k).
  • Recommended offer: $281k (6.0% below list) — sets the bar for market timing.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads: area grade B — affects rentability + tenant quality, not the cash-flow math above.
  • Collier (suburban): math 60% / reading 56% proficiency, ranked #16 of 73 in FL (top 22%) — acceptable for families but not a draw, mixed tenant base, ~2y average lease.
  • Market conditions: Rents rising (+3.2%/yr); 905 active listings in the ZIP; 22 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals at typical pace (median 25d on market — plan ~3-4 weeks tenant-placement turnaround); solid renter incomes; 3,520 units permitted in Collier County in 2024 (959 in 5+ unit buildings).
  • At $5,973/mo this rent would consume 80% of the median local household income ($89k/yr) (locally 550% of renters already pay >50% of income on rent) — very limited rent-growth headroom before tenants either downsize or default.

Forward outlook

  • Local home prices are declining (-1.5%/yr); year-one equity from $2k of loan paydown is wiped out by about $4k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
  • Collier County population projected at +30% by 2050 — long-run rental-demand tailwind backs the buy-and-hold thesis.
  • At projected returns (-1.5% appreciation + 3.2% rent growth), your $84k cash investment doubles in ~5 years — after that, you're playing with house money.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 88 days — a 6% lower offer ($281k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 3 sale attempts since 5y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Watch-outs: flood insurance adds $66/mo.
  • Climate carrying-cost: severe flood risk; severe wind risk, 99% chance of damaging wind over 30y; extreme-heat days projected 6→24/yr by 2055 (HVAC capex compounding) — expect insurance premiums to compound above CPI over the hold.
Recommended offer $281,060 (6.0% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. It's been on market 88 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 6% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
  2. What's the actual annual flood-insurance premium (NFIP or private), and is the property in a SFHA with mandatory coverage?
  3. What does the HOA fee cover, when was the last increase, and are there any pending special assessments or reserve-fund shortfalls?
  4. Any open or pending special assessments — roof, HVAC, plumbing, elevator, façade? What's the per-unit balance and payoff schedule, and is the seller paying it off at close or rolling it to the buyer?
  5. Why hasn't it sold? Are there any deal-killer items the seller is aware of (foundation, flood, title, zoning, code violations)?
  6. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  7. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  8. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  9. How much new apartment / multifamily construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply (>2% of stock underway) typically softens rents 12–24 months out; light construction supports rent growth.

Investment metrics

1% rule
2.00%
Cap rate
12.98%
Cash-on-cash
23.89%
DSCR
2.06
GRM
4.2

CMA / ARV

No comps found within radius.

Projected returns pro-forma

-1.48% appreciation · 3.21% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
20.0%
Equity multiple
1.90×
Total profit
$74,959
Equity at exit
$65,335
10-year hold
IRR
26.4%
Equity multiple
3.66×
Total profit
$222,561
Equity at exit
$62,936

Cash invested: $83,720 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
87 Strongly Landlord-Friendly
State Florida
87 Strongly Landlord-Friendly · R+3
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
3-day pay-or-quit; preempts local rent control; landlord-friendly statutes. Court speed varies by county.

ZIP-level market 34114

Home prices YoY
-0.6%
Rents YoY
3.2%
Active inventory
905
Price-to-rent
4.2×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$5,973 high interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$1,568
Tax from tax record
$388 /mo · $4,661/yr
Insurance
$125
Flood insurance flood zone
−$66 /mo · $798/yr
HOA
$971
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$1,254
Net cashflow
$1,600

Break-even live

Break-even rent $3,947
Max offer price $299,000
Occupancy floor 68%

Sensitivity live

Price -10% $1,769 -5% $1,685 +0% $1,600 +5% $1,515 +10% $1,431
Rent -10% $1,128 -5% $1,364 +0% $1,600 +5% $1,836 +10% $2,072
Rate -1.0pp $1,751 -0.5pp $1,676 base $1,600 +0.5pp $1,522 +1.0pp $1,444

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$74,750
Closing costs
$8,970
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Rent comps 22 comps

AddressBedsBaths SqftRent$/sqft DOM Units Dist
8355 Whisper Trace Way Unit K104 Naples, FL 3.0 2.0 1674 $6,500 $3.88 15d 1 0.05mi
8365 Whisper Trace Way Unit L204 Naples, FL 3.0 2.0 1752 $6,500 $3.71 15d 1 0.07mi
262 Indies Dr E Unit 101 Naples, FL 3.0 2.0 1537 $7,500 $4.88 24d 1 0.30mi
286 Indies Dr E Unit 202 Naples, FL 3.0 2.0 1509 $3,200 $2.12 24d 1 0.30mi
268 Indies Dr E #102 Naples, FL 2.0 2.0 1537 $7,500 $4.88 24d 1 0.31mi
244 Indies Dr E #101 Naples, FL 3.0 2.0 1537 $7,500 $4.88 22d 1 0.31mi
232 Indies Dr E #101 Naples, FL 3.0 2.0 1537 $7,500 $4.88 24d 1 0.34mi
163 Indies Dr E #203 Naples, FL 2.0 2.0 1448 $7,200 $4.97 24d 1 0.42mi
163 Indies Dr E #106 Naples, FL 3.0 2.0 1698 $7,500 $4.42 24d 1 0.42mi
163 Indies Dr E #206 Naples, FL 3.0 2.0 1698 $6,000 $3.53 24d 1 0.42mi
4650 Hawks Nest Way Unit M202 Naples, FL 3.0 2.0 1840 $9,600 $5.22 15d 1 0.76mi
4680 Hawks Nest Way Unit D-103 Naples, FL 2.0 2.0 1414 $3,000 $2.12 15d 1 0.85mi
4529 Cardinal Cove Ln #7 Naples, FL 2.0 2.0 1539 $6,500 $4.22 24d 1 0.85mi
4685 Hawks Nest Way #103 Naples, FL 2.0 2.0 1440 $6,500 $4.51 15d 1 0.89mi
3955 Deer Crossing Ct #103 Naples, FL 3.0 2.0 1812 $7,500 $4.14 24d 1 0.97mi
1305 Mainsail Dr Naples, FL 2.0 2.0 871 $1,912 $2.19 22d 2 1.21mi
1305 Mainsail Dr Naples, FL 2.0 2.0 925 $1,862 $2.01 24d 2 1.21mi
1042 Mainsail Dr #822 Naples, FL 3.0 2.0 1276 $1,895 $1.49 24d 1 1.33mi
1510 Mainsail Dr #7 Naples, FL 2.0 2.0 966 $4,500 $4.66 15d 1 1.35mi
1024 Mainsail Dr #512 Naples, FL 3.0 2.0 1276 $2,300 $1.80 15d 1 1.36mi
1516 Mainsail Dr #2 Naples, FL 2.0 2.0 966 $1,900 $1.97 15d 1 1.40mi
1522 Mainsail Dr #2 Naples, FL 2.0 2.0 900 $1,895 $2.11 15d 1 1.47mi

HOA detail condo

Monthly dues
$971 · $11,652/yr
Likely covers
poolsecurity
Assessments
None detected in remarks — confirm with the listing agent.

Listing history 5 events

  1. 2026-06-08
    days on market $299,000 Active 88 DOM
  2. 2026-06-07
    days on market $299,000 Active 87 DOM
  3. 2026-06-03
    days on market $299,000 Active 83 DOM
  4. 2026-06-03
    remarks 699-char remark
  5. 2026-06-03
    listed $299,000 Active 82 DOM

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Tax reassessment forecast FL · Resets to sale price

Current annual tax
$4,661 · $388/mo
Projected year-2 tax
$4,661 · $388/mo
Expected delta
$0/yr ($0/mo · 0.0%)

ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 9/10 Extreme FEMA zone X (shaded) · 99% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 4/10 Moderate
  • 🌡 Heat 10/10 Extreme 6 d/yr ≥107°F today · 24 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 10/10 Extreme 99% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
  • 🫁 Air quality 3/10 Moderate 3 unhealthy d/yr today · 3 by 30 yrs out

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$71,671
− Mortgage interest
−$16,749
− Property taxes
−$4,661
− Insurance
−$2,292
− Repairs & maintenance
−$5,734
− Management
−$5,734
− HOA
−$11,652
− Depreciation
−$8,698
Taxable income
$16,152
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax owed @ 24.0%
−$3,876
After-tax cash flow
$15,323/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Collier
NCES district ID
1200330
Math proficiency
60% ▼ -4.00%
Reading proficiency
56% ▼ -2.00%
Median HH income
$58,275
Composite
50.23/100
National rank
#1892
State rank
#16 of 73 in FL

Livability — Marco Shores-Hammock Bay

No livability data for this city. (Only ~50 U.S. cities are tracked.)

Census & demographics

County
Collier County · 396,295 people
Metro
Naples-Marco Island, FL
Population (ZIP)
23,559
Household income
$89,334
Rent vs Own
15.3% rent · 84.7% own
Severe rent burden
550.0

Population outlook (Collier County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
420,858 people
By 2030
450,054 · +6.9%
By 2040
502,232 · +19.3%
By 2050
544,932 · +29.5%
By 2075
627,203 · +49.0%
By 2100
659,015 · +56.6%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Predominantly White (72%)
Race & ethnicity
White 72% Hispanic / Latino 17% Two or more races 13% Black 7%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Mexican 7% Puerto Rican 1% Cuban 3%
Common ancestry
Hispanic 5% Romanian 4% Lithuanian 1%
Foreign-born
21% · Canada, Jamaica
Languages at home
75% English-only · Spanish 15% French/Haitian/Cajun 5% Other Indo-European 4%

Political lean MEDSL · Collier

2024 margin
Solid R (+33.1) · D 33.1% · R 66.2%
2008→2024 swing
-10.6pp toward R · 2008: -22.5pp · 2024: -33.1pp
All cycles
2024: R+33.1 2020: R+24.7 2016: R+26.0 2012: R+30.1 2008: R+22.5

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▼ -1.48%
Current HPI
266.5545
Rent YoY
▲ 3.21%
Metro
Naples-Marco Island, FL
State GDP YoY
▲ 3.28%
F500 in state
36

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in FL)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

+126.3% since first listed
9 events — show timeline
  • 2026-03-12 Listed $299,000 NAPLESMLS
  • 2026-03-12 Listed $299,000 MIML
  • 2021-06-19 Sold (Public Records) $283,000 Public Records
  • 2021-06-11 Sold (MLS) $283,000 NAPLESMLS
  • 2021-05-21 Pending NAPLESMLS
  • 2021-05-11 Pending NAPLESMLS
  • 2021-05-08 Listed $279,000 NAPLESMLS
  • 2005-05-17 Sold (Public Records) $229,000 Public Records
  • 1998-09-30 Sold (Public Records) $132,100 Public Records

Property tax history

+13.0%/yr

Latest (2025): $4,661 · -1.3% YoY. Source: county tax records.

Cash-flow waterfall

monthly

Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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