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509 Turtle St Fourplex
B+ Composite 78.13
Why this score? — see what drove the B+ grade

The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • Cash flow +30.0/30.0
  • 1% rule +10.0/10.0
  • DSCR +10.0/10.0
  • Appreciation +10.0/10.0
  • ARV discount +7.5/15.0
  • Livability +3.9/5.0
  • Rent growth +2.5/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • Schools +1.8/10.0

$279,900

509 Turtle St · Syracuse, NY 13208
24 bd · 16.0 ba · 5,643 sqft · MultiFamily public records · 69 Days on market
Built 1940 0.42 ac lot

🖨 Deal sheet 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Multi-family units

County records classify this as Multi-Family (5+ Unit). Listing-text estimate: 4 units. estimate disagrees with records

5+ unit building — per-unit beds/baths from public records are typically unavailable; the breakdown below (if shown) is an estimate from the listing text.

Listing remarks MLS

This is the high cashflow money-maker you’ve been waiting for! This turnkey 4-unit on the Northside of Syracuse with long-term tenants offers double digit cap rates. Invest with peace of mind knowing the roof was replaced in 2012, 3 furnaces are brand new, and a new Certificate of Compliance was issued by the city of Syracuse in 2020. Utilities are separately metered so tenants pay their own gas and electricity. Apartments are spacious and have been updated over the last few years featuring new kitchens, bathrooms, and flooring throughout. Three apartments are rented to long-term tenants who are current on rent and the 4th unit is being left vacant for the new owner to occupy or rent themselves. The property also includes off street parking and a detached garage which the owner can use for storage or additional rental income.

Key facts

  • Updated bathrooms
  • New furnaces
  • Passed lead testing

Tags

ROOF REPLACEDNEW FURNACESPASSED LEAD TESTINGSEPARATELY METERED UTILITIESUPDATED KITCHENSUPDATED BATHROOMS

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 4 × 6-bed/4.0-bath units multifamily listed at $280k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $4k ($51k/yr) — positive. Per door: $1k/mo.
  • The deal already cash-flows at list — no discount required.
  • Meets the 1% rule at list price ($8k rent vs $280k).
  • Recommended offer: $263k (6.0% below list) — sets the bar for market timing.
  • Cap rate 24.4% vs local median 8.2% in Syracuse — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 77/100 on livability (#187 in NY, #2,869 nationally) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: amenities A+, commute A+, cost of living A+; Watch: schools D+, crime F, employment D-.
  • Syracuse City School District (urban): math 18% / reading 26% proficiency, ranked #590 of 590 in NY (top 100%) — low school quality limits family demand, transient renter base, plan for 1-2y turnover; 74% free/reduced lunch — lower-income household profile, screen leases tightly.
  • Market conditions: 99 active listings in the ZIP; lower-income renter base — watch delinquency; 616 units permitted in Onondaga County in 2024 (256 in 5+ unit buildings).
  • At $7,603/mo this rent would consume 204% of the median local household income ($45k/yr) (locally 1437% of renters already pay >50% of income on rent) — very limited rent-growth headroom before tenants either downsize or default.

Forward outlook

  • In year one you build about $30k of equity ($2k loan paydown + $28k appreciation (10.0% local appreciation)).
  • Onondaga County population projected to shrink 9% by 2050 — rents likely to lag national; underwrite the cash flow, not the appreciation.
  • At projected returns (10.0% appreciation + 3.0% rent growth), your $78k cash investment doubles in ~1 year — after that, you're playing with house money.
  • By year 2, paydown + projected appreciation supports a ~$48k cash-out refi (75% LTV) — recoverable capital for the next deal without selling this one.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 69 days — a 6% lower offer ($263k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 6 sale attempts since 15y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
  • Current owner paid $170k; list at $280k implies a 65% gain — meaningful room to come down on a strong offer.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Watch-outs: built in 1940 — expect roof / HVAC / electrical / plumbing capex.
Recommended offer $263,106 (6.0% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. It's been on market 69 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 6% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
  2. Can we see the unit-by-unit rent roll, current vacancy, and any below-market leases? What's the average tenancy length?
  3. What capital expenditures (roof, boiler, parking lot, exteriors) have been made in the last 5 years, and what's planned in the next 2?
  4. Built in 1940 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
  5. Why hasn't it sold? Are there any deal-killer items the seller is aware of (foundation, flood, title, zoning, code violations)?
  6. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  7. Schools are D-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
  8. Crime grade is F in this area — have there been break-ins, vandalism, or insurance claims at this property in the last 3 years? What carrier currently insures it and at what premium?
  9. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  10. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  11. How much new apartment / multifamily construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply (>2% of stock underway) typically softens rents 12–24 months out; light construction supports rent growth.

Investment metrics

1% rule
2.72%
Cap rate
24.40%
Cash-on-cash
64.66%
DSCR
3.88
GRM
3.1

CMA / ARV

No comps found within radius.

Projected returns pro-forma

10.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
76.3%
Equity multiple
6.38×
Total profit
$421,430
Equity at exit
$252,156
10-year hold
IRR
70.3%
Equity multiple
14.14×
Total profit
$1,029,571
Equity at exit
$543,784

Cash invested: $78,372 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
State New York
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
NYC rent stabilization (~1M units); 2019 HSTPA strengthened tenant rights; courts deeply backlogged.

ZIP-level market 13208

Home prices YoY
8.4%
Active inventory
99
Price-to-rent
12.3×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$7,603 medium interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$1,468
Tax from tax record
$199 /mo · $2,387/yr
Insurance
$117
HOA
$0
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$1,597
Net cashflow
$4,223

Break-even live

Break-even rent $2,257
Max offer price $279,900
Occupancy floor 39%

4-unit breakdown (identical units grouped — click to expand)

UnitsBedsBathsEst. rent
Total (4 units) $7,603

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$69,975
Closing costs
$8,397
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Listing history 22 events

  1. 2026-04-22
    status Pending
  2. 2026-03-26
    price $279,900
  3. 2026-02-12
    listed $289,900 Active
  4. 2021-07-29
    soldstatus $170,000
  5. 2021-07-28
    soldstatus $170,000 Closed Sale or Rented 845-char remark
    Show marketing remark (845 chars)

    This is the high cashflow money-maker you’ve been waiting for! This turnkey 4-unit on the Northside of Syracuse with long-term tenants offers double digit cap rates. Invest with peace of mind knowing the roof was replaced in 2012, 3 furnaces are brand new, and a new Certificate of Compliance was issued by the city of Syracuse in 2020. Utilities are separately metered so tenants pay their own gas and electricity. Apartments are spacious and have been updated over the last few years featuring new kitchens, bathrooms, and flooring throughout. Three apartments are rented to long-term tenants who are current on rent and the 4th unit is being left vacant for the new owner to occupy or rent themselves. The property also includes off street parking and a detached garage which the owner can use for storage or additional rental income.

  6. 2021-05-09
    status Under Contract- Do Not Show 845-char remark
    Show marketing remark (845 chars)

    This is the high cashflow money-maker you’ve been waiting for! This turnkey 4-unit on the Northside of Syracuse with long-term tenants offers double digit cap rates. Invest with peace of mind knowing the roof was replaced in 2012, 3 furnaces are brand new, and a new Certificate of Compliance was issued by the city of Syracuse in 2020. Utilities are separately metered so tenants pay their own gas and electricity. Apartments are spacious and have been updated over the last few years featuring new kitchens, bathrooms, and flooring throughout. Three apartments are rented to long-term tenants who are current on rent and the 4th unit is being left vacant for the new owner to occupy or rent themselves. The property also includes off street parking and a detached garage which the owner can use for storage or additional rental income.

  7. 2021-05-02
    historical Continue to Show- Under Contract 845-char remark
    Show marketing remark (845 chars)

    This is the high cashflow money-maker you’ve been waiting for! This turnkey 4-unit on the Northside of Syracuse with long-term tenants offers double digit cap rates. Invest with peace of mind knowing the roof was replaced in 2012, 3 furnaces are brand new, and a new Certificate of Compliance was issued by the city of Syracuse in 2020. Utilities are separately metered so tenants pay their own gas and electricity. Apartments are spacious and have been updated over the last few years featuring new kitchens, bathrooms, and flooring throughout. Three apartments are rented to long-term tenants who are current on rent and the 4th unit is being left vacant for the new owner to occupy or rent themselves. The property also includes off street parking and a detached garage which the owner can use for storage or additional rental income.

  8. 2021-04-22
    listed $179,900 Active 845-char remark
    Show marketing remark (845 chars)

    This is the high cashflow money-maker you’ve been waiting for! This turnkey 4-unit on the Northside of Syracuse with long-term tenants offers double digit cap rates. Invest with peace of mind knowing the roof was replaced in 2012, 3 furnaces are brand new, and a new Certificate of Compliance was issued by the city of Syracuse in 2020. Utilities are separately metered so tenants pay their own gas and electricity. Apartments are spacious and have been updated over the last few years featuring new kitchens, bathrooms, and flooring throughout. Three apartments are rented to long-term tenants who are current on rent and the 4th unit is being left vacant for the new owner to occupy or rent themselves. The property also includes off street parking and a detached garage which the owner can use for storage or additional rental income.

  9. 2019-01-31
    soldstatus $125,000
  10. 2019-01-24
    soldstatus $125,000
  11. 2019-01-17
    listed $130,000
  12. 2018-03-29
    soldstatus $100,000 Closed Sale or Rented
  13. 2018-03-29
    soldstatus $100,000
  14. 2017-12-10
    status Under Contract- Do Not Show
  15. 2017-12-05
    listed $99,900 Active
  16. 2014-01-08
    soldstatus $625
  17. 2013-12-02
    listed $625
  18. 2012-06-01
    historical
  19. 2012-05-25
    soldstatus $38,000
  20. 2012-05-24
    soldstatus $38,000
  21. 2011-09-28
    listed $39,900
  22. 2007-05-04
    soldstatus $85,000

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Tax reassessment forecast NY · Partial reset (capped growth)

Current annual tax
$2,387 · $199/mo
Projected year-2 tax
$3,559 · $297/mo
Expected delta
+$1,172/yr (+$98/mo · 49.1%)

ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 1/10 Low
  • 🌡 Heat 3/10 Moderate 7 d/yr ≥95°F today · 16 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 1/10 Low 0% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
  • 🫁 Air quality 2/10 Low 0 unhealthy d/yr today · 1 by 30 yrs out

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$91,236
− Mortgage interest
−$15,679
− Property taxes
−$2,387
− Insurance
−$1,400
− Repairs & maintenance
−$7,299
− Management
−$7,299
− Depreciation
−$8,143
Taxable income
$49,031
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax owed @ 24.0%
−$11,767
After-tax cash flow
$38,909/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Syracuse City School District
NCES district ID
3628590
Math proficiency
18% ▼ -5.00%
Reading proficiency
26% ▬ 0.00%
Median HH income
$32,097
Composite
17.83/100
National rank
#9007
State rank
#590 of 590 in NY

Livability — Syracuse

Score
77/100
State rank
#187
US rank
#2869

Category grades

Amenities A+ Commute A+ Cost of living A+ Crime F Employment D- Housing A+ Health & safety A+ User ratings F

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
Syracuse, NY
County
Onondaga County · 247,257 people
City population
152,627
Metro
Syracuse, NY
Population (ZIP)
22,993
Household income
$44,712
Rent vs Own
50.8% rent · 49.2% own
Severe rent burden
1437.0

Population outlook (Onondaga County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
467,894 people
By 2030
463,381 · -1.0%
By 2040
447,697 · -4.3%
By 2050
426,399 · -8.9%
By 2075
373,661 · -20.1%
By 2100
307,967 · -34.2%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Highly diverse neighborhood (Simpson 0.70)
Race & ethnicity
White 46% Black 24% Asian 14% Two or more races 10% Hispanic / Latino 6%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Puerto Rican 4% Dominican 1%
Common ancestry
Romanian 3% Swedish 3% Italian 1%
Foreign-born
22% · Vietnam, Philippines, Canada
Languages at home
70% English-only · Spanish 6% Other Asian/Pacific 5% Vietnamese 4%

Political lean MEDSL · Onondaga

2024 margin
D (+17.3) · D 58.6% · R 41.4%
2008→2024 swing
-3.0pp toward R · 2008: 20.3pp · 2024: 17.3pp
All cycles
2024: D+17.3 2020: D+20.6 2016: D+12.8 2012: D+21.1 2008: D+20.3

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▲ 30.91%
Current HPI
399.3284
Rent YoY
Metro
Syracuse, NY
State GDP YoY
▲ 2.60%
F500 in state
92

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

+229.3% since first listed
22 events — show timeline
  • 2026-04-22 Pending CNYIS
  • 2026-03-26 Price Changed $279,900 CNYIS
  • 2026-02-12 Listed $289,900 CNYIS
  • 2021-07-29 Sold (Public Records) $170,000 Public Records
  • 2021-07-28 Sold (MLS) $170,000 CNYIS
  • 2021-05-09 Pending CNYIS
  • 2021-05-02 Contingent CNYIS
  • 2021-04-22 Listed $179,900 CNYIS
  • 2019-01-31 Sold (Public Records) $125,000 Public Records
  • 2019-01-24 Sold (MLS) $125,000 CNYIS
  • 2019-01-17 Listed $130,000 CNYIS
  • 2018-03-29 Sold (Public Records) $100,000 Public Records
  • 2018-03-29 Sold (MLS) $100,000 CNYIS
  • 2017-12-10 Pending CNYIS
  • 2017-12-05 Listed $99,900 CNYIS
  • 2014-01-08 Sold (MLS) $625 WNYREIS
  • 2013-12-02 Listed $625 WNYREIS
  • 2012-06-01 Listing Removed CNYIS
  • 2012-05-25 Sold (Public Records) $38,000 Public Records
  • 2012-05-24 Sold (MLS) $38,000 CNYIS
  • 2011-09-28 Listed $39,900 CNYIS
  • 2007-05-04 Sold (Public Records) $85,000 Public Records

Property tax history

+0.6%/yr

Latest (2025): $2,387 · +0.0% YoY. Source: county tax records.

Cash-flow waterfall

monthly

Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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