503 Tops'l Dr #503 · Mandeville, LA
Flood risk 1/10 · Minimal
- FEMA flood zone
- X (unshaded)
- Chance of flooding over 30 yrs
- 0.0%
- Est. flood insurance / yr
- $507 – $1,088
Fire risk 1/10 · Minimal
- Est. fire insurance / yr
- $1,269 – $2,357
Heat risk 10/10 · Severe
- Hot days now (above 108°F)
- 7 days/yr
- Hot days in 30 yrs
- 19 days/yr
Wind risk 9/10 · Severe
- Chance of severe wind over 30 yrs
- 99.0%
Air-quality risk 2/10 · Minimal
- Unhealthy air days now
- 1 days/yr
- Unhealthy air days in 30 yrs
- 2 days/yr
Risk factors via First Street. Map © Google.
Why this score? — see what drove the D- grade
The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).
- ARV discount +11.3/15.0
- Schools +6.4/10.0
- Cash flow +5.8/30.0
- 1% rule +4.0/10.0
- Livability +3.9/5.0
- Condition / age +3.8/5.0
- Rent growth +2.8/5.0
- DSCR +0.2/10.0
- Appreciation +0.0/10.0
$219,900
🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence
Listing remarks MLS
Experience waterfront living at its finest in this two bedroom, two and a half bath condominium offering both charm and opportunity. This home features brand new luxury vinyl plank flooring flowing through the living and dining areas, creating a fresh foundation for you personal touches. The inviting living room is highlighted by a cozy wood burning fireplace. The kitchen offers a convenient bar height opening into the dining area allowing for casual dining and gatherings, while also presenting an excellent opportunity for updates to suit your style. The bathrooms similarly offer great potential for renovation and customization. Both spacious bedrooms serve as private retreats, each with its own balcony. The primary bedroom elevates comfort even further with its own wood burning fireplace, adding warmth and ambiance.
Key facts
- $475 HOA
- Parking
- Built 1985
Neighborhood map
What this means for you Summary
Snapshot
- This is a 2-bed/2.5-bath condo listed at $220k. Condition is rated good.
Deal economics
- At list price, monthly cash flow is $-438 ($-5k/yr) — negative.
- To cash-flow at today's rent, offer at most $157k (28.8% below list).
- To meet the 1% rule (rent ≥ 1% of price), the offer needs to be $197k (10.4% below list).
- Recommended offer: $157k (28.8% below list) — sets the bar for cash-flow.
Location & tenants
- Location reads 77/100 on livability (#13 in LA, #3,224 nationally) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: employment A+, housing A+, health & safety A+; Watch: amenities F, commute F.
- St. Tammany Parish (suburban): math 43% / reading 55% proficiency, ranked #11 of 98 in LA (top 11%) — families likely to look elsewhere, expect single-tenant / working-renter base with shorter leases.
- Zoned schools: Mandeville Elementary School (math 62% / reading 72%, grade B+, #35 of 646 statewide, top 5%, 551 students, 29% FRL); Tchefuncte Middle School (math 65% / reading 71%, grade A-, #5 of 218 statewide, top 2%, 697 students, 24% FRL); Mandeville High School (math 59% / reading 63%, grade C+, #19 of 265 statewide, top 7%, 2,259 students, 22% FRL) — zoned schools average 25% FRL vs 40% district-wide (15 pts lower); this property's tenant base skews higher-income than the district average.
- Zoned-school proficiency averages 65% at this address vs 49% district-wide (+16 pts) — the actual schools serving this property are materially stronger than the St. Tammany Parish average implies; a family-tenant draw the district grade alone would hide.
- Market conditions: Rents rising (+1.1%/yr); 308 active listings in the ZIP; 22 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals lingering (median 39d on market — plan ~5-8 weeks vacancy on turnover, expect pricing pressure); 73% of comp listings sitting > 30 days — soft ceiling on asking rent; solid renter incomes; 1,064 units permitted in St. Tammany Parish in 2024 (0 in 5+ unit buildings).
Forward outlook
- Local home prices are declining (-3.0%/yr); year-one equity from $2k of loan paydown is wiped out by about $7k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
- St. Tammany County population projected at +27% by 2050 — long-run rental-demand tailwind backs the buy-and-hold thesis.
Negotiation context
- It's been on market 95 days — a 9% lower offer ($200k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
- 2 sale attempts with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
Risks & watch-outs
- Watch-outs: HOA is 24% of rent.
- Climate carrying-cost: severe wind risk, 99% chance of damaging wind over 30y; extreme-heat days projected 7→19/yr by 2055 (HVAC capex compounding) — expect insurance premiums to compound above CPI over the hold.
Questions for the listing agent
- What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
- It's been on market 95 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 29% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
- What does the HOA fee cover, when was the last increase, and are there any pending special assessments or reserve-fund shortfalls?
- Any open or pending special assessments — roof, HVAC, plumbing, elevator, façade? What's the per-unit balance and payoff schedule, and is the seller paying it off at close or rolling it to the buyer?
- Why hasn't it sold? Are there any deal-killer items the seller is aware of (foundation, flood, title, zoning, code violations)?
- Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
- Schools are A-rated — typically a magnet for longer-tenancy family renters. What's the average tenant stay here, and is there a school-zone premium baked into asking?
- The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
- What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
- What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
- How much new apartment / multifamily construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply (>2% of stock underway) typically softens rents 12–24 months out; light construction supports rent growth.
Investment metrics
- 1% rule
- 0.90% ✗
- Cap rate
- 3.90%
- Cash-on-cash
- -8.53%
- DSCR
- 0.62
- GRM
- 9.3
CMA / ARV
- ARV (median comp)
- $240,362
- List price
- $219,900
- Delta
- -8.51%
- Verdict
- FAIR
- Comps
- 20 within 1.0 mi
Show comp detail 12 sales within ~0.75 mi
| Address | Dist | Beds/Ba | Sqft | Sold | Price | $/sf | Match |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 207 Tops L Dr Unit B4 | 0.05mi | 2/2.5 | 1,750 (-2%) | 4mo | $235,000 | $134 | 92 |
| 9 Caribbean Ct #9 | 0.19mi | 2/2.5 | 1,600 (-10%) | 4mo | $192,000 | $120 | 70 |
| 231 Carole Dr | 0.40mi | 3/2.0 (+1) | 1,823 (+2%) | 2mo | $380,000 | $208 | 69 |
| 148 Cindy Lou Pl | 0.30mi | 3/2.0 (+1) | 1,709 (-4%) | 4mo | $385,000 | $225 | 68 |
| 307 Goldenwood St | 1.17mi | 3/2.0 (+1) | 1,793 (+1%) | 4mo | $255,000 | $142 | 54 |
| 407 Goldenwood Dr | 1.24mi | 3/2.0 (+1) | 1,888 (+6%) | 5mo | $259,000 | $137 | 44 |
| 2433 Monroe St | 1.11mi | 3/2.0 (+1) | 1,647 (-8%) | 4mo | $295,000 | $179 | 42 |
| 727 Hutchinson St | 0.64mi | 3/2.0 (+1) | 1,535 (-14%) | 3mo | $225,000 | $147 | 38 |
| 213 Elmwood St | 1.16mi | 3/2.0 (+1) | 1,583 (-11%) | 2mo | $290,000 | $183 | 37 |
| 3 Magnolia Ridge Ct | 0.77mi | 3/2.5 (+1) | 1,995 (+12%) | 4mo | $395,000 | $198 | 37 |
| 718 Wilkinson St | 1.05mi | 3/2.0 (+1) | 1,453 (-18%) | 3mo | $264,000 | $182 | 31 |
| 269 Oakwood Dr | 1.02mi | 3/2.0 (+1) | 1,456 (-18%) | 3mo | $249,000 | $171 | 30 |
Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.
Projected returns pro-forma
-3.0% appreciation · 1.06% rent growth · sell at horizon
- IRR
- -34.2%
- Equity multiple
- -0.09×
- Total profit
- $-66,973
- Equity at exit
- $32,788
- IRR
- -63.1%
- Equity multiple
- -0.75×
- Total profit
- $-107,816
- Equity at exit
- $19,013
Cash invested: $61,572 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.
Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology
- Overall (STATE)
- 90 Strongly Landlord-Friendly
- State Louisiana
- 90 Strongly Landlord-Friendly · R+12
- County
- — inherits STATE
- City
- — inherits STATE
ZIP-level market 70448
- Rents YoY
- 1.1%
- Active inventory
- 308
- Price-to-rent
- 9.3×
Monthly cashflow live
- Estimated rent
- $1,971 high interval (Pro) →
- Mortgage (P&I)
- −$1,153
- Tax est. 1.5%
- −$275 /mo · $3,298/yr
- Insurance
- −$92
- HOA
- −$475
- Lot rent
- −$0
- Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
- −$414
- Net cashflow
- $-438
Break-even live
Sensitivity live
| Price | -10% $-286 | -5% $-362 | +0% $-438 | +5% $-514 | +10% $-590 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rent | -10% $-594 | -5% $-516 | +0% $-438 | +5% $-360 | +10% $-282 |
| Rate | -1.0pp $-327 | -0.5pp $-382 | base $-438 | +0.5pp $-495 | +1.0pp $-553 |
UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt
Financing live
Cash to close
- Down payment
- $54,975
- Closing costs
- $6,597
- Club membership (one-time)
- —
- Reserves months
- —
- Total cash needed
- —
Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live
Conventional
25% down · 7.5% · 30yr
- Cash invested
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
- —
Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.
DSCR
20% down · 8.5% · 30yr
- Cash invested
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
- —
No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.
Hard money
10% down · 12.0% · 12mo
- Cash invested
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
- —
Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.
Rent comps 22 comps
| Address | Beds | Baths | Sqft | Rent | $/sqft | DOM | Units | Dist |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 705 Tops L Dr Mandeville, LA | 2.0 | 2.5 | 1783 | $1,700 | $0.95 | 25d | 1 | 0.04mi |
| 409 Tops L Dr Mandeville, LA | 2.0 | 2.5 | 1783 | $1,700 | $0.95 | 25d | 1 | 0.05mi |
| 203 Tops L Dr #203 Mandeville, LA | 2.0 | 2.5 | 1750 | $1,650 | $0.94 | 93d | 1 | 0.06mi |
| 9 Caribbean Ct Mandeville, LA | 2.0 | 2.5 | 1600 | $3,225 | $2.02 | 34d | 1 | 0.16mi |
| 225 Magnolia St Mandeville, LA | 3.0 | 2.0 | 1400 | $2,200 | $1.57 | 34d | 1 | 0.67mi |
| 709 Carondelet St Mandeville, LA | 3.0 | 2.0 | 1589 | $2,500 | $1.57 | 34d | 1 | 0.94mi |
| 509 Wilkinson St Mandeville, LA | 3.0 | 2.0 | 1300 | $2,000 | $1.54 | 28d | 1 | 0.98mi |
| 575 Wilkinson St Mandeville, LA | 2.0 | 2.5 | 2156 | $3,200 | $1.48 | 93d | 1 | 0.99mi |
| 518 Ramon St Mandeville, LA | 3.0 | 2.5 | 1445 | $1,550 | $1.07 | 61d | 1 | 1.01mi |
| 518 Ramon St Mandeville, LA | 3.0 | 2.5 | 1445 | $1,500 | $1.04 | 28d | 1 | 1.01mi |
| 1207 Rue Renoir Mandeville, LA | 2.0 | 2.5 | 2041 | $2,700 | $1.32 | 93d | 1 | 1.02mi |
| 100 Oak Aly Mandeville, LA | 3.0 | 2.5 | 1692 | $2,590 | $1.53 | 39d | 1 | 1.07mi |
| 215 Elmwood St Mandeville, LA | 3.0 | 2.0 | 1474 | $1,950 | $1.32 | 17d | 1 | 1.12mi |
| 209 W Hickory St Mandeville, LA | 3.0 | 1.5 | 1350 | $1,900 | $1.41 | 66d | 1 | 1.30mi |
| 2130 Jefferson St Mandeville, LA | 2.0 | 1.0 | 1290 | $1,800 | $1.40 | 93d | 1 | 1.41mi |
| 109 Walnut St Mandeville, LA | 3.0 | 3.0 | 1597 | $2,100 | $1.31 | 72d | 1 | 1.42mi |
| 802 Carroll St Mandeville, LA | 2.0 | 2.5 | 1264 | $1,895 | $1.50 | 34d | 1 | 1.45mi |
| 121 Chestnut St Mandeville, LA | 3.0 | 2.0 | 1943 | $1,975 | $1.02 | 41d | 1 | 1.47mi |
| 418 Lafitte St Mandeville, LA | 3.0 | 2.0 | 1800 | $4,000 | $2.22 | 34d | 1 | 1.47mi |
| 818 Carroll St Mandeville, LA | 2.0 | 2.5 | 1260 | $1,900 | $1.51 | 47d | 1 | 1.47mi |
| 426 Lafitte St Mandeville, LA | 3.0 | 2.5 | 1660 | $2,700 | $1.63 | 52d | 1 | 1.47mi |
| 100 Saint Ann Dr Mandeville, LA | 1.0–3.0 | 1.0–2.5 | 1112 | $1,535 | $1.38 | 11d | 12 | 1.49mi |
Property features AI
Finance
- Other
- Pets allowed: cats and dogs OK (no pet restrictions)37 total units in the community
- HOA & community
- HOA fee of $475 (includes common areas and water)
Exterior
- Parking
- Parking available in a parking lot
- Security
- Smoke detectors
- Utilities
- Public waterPublic sewer
- Home design
- Condominium2 storiesVery good condition
- Construction
- Synthetic stucco exteriorAsphalt shingle roofSlab foundation
- Exterior features
- BalconyCity lotWaterfront on a lakeCommon grounds/area
Interior
- Kitchen
- Pantry
- Bedrooms
- 4 total rooms (bedroom count not specified)
- Bathrooms
- 2 full bathrooms1 half bathroom
- Heating & cooling
- Central heatingCentral air conditioningHas heating and cooling
- Interior features
- Ceiling fansCarbon monoxide detectorPantryCable TV
- Laundry & utility
- Washer hookupDryer hookup
HOA detail $475/mo · $5,700/yr condo
- Likely covers
- water
- Assessments
- None detected in remarks — confirm with the listing agent.
Listing history 50 events
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2026-08-08days on market $219,900 Active 95 DOM
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2026-08-07days on market $219,900 Active 94 DOM
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2026-08-06days on market $219,900 Active 93 DOM
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2026-08-05days on market $219,900 Active 92 DOM
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2026-08-04days on market $219,900 Active 91 DOM
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2026-08-03days on market $219,900 Active 90 DOM
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2026-07-31days on market $219,900 Active 87 DOM
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2026-07-30days on market $219,900 Active 86 DOM
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2026-07-30days on market $219,900 Active 85 DOM
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2026-07-28days on market $219,900 Active 84 DOM
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2026-07-26days on market $219,900 Active 82 DOM
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2026-07-24days on market $219,900 Active 80 DOM
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2026-07-23days on market $219,900 Active 79 DOM
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2026-07-22days on market $219,900 Active 78 DOM
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2026-07-21days on market $219,900 Active 77 DOM
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2026-07-20days on market $219,900 Active 76 DOM
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2026-07-18days on market $219,900 Active 74 DOM
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2026-07-18days on market $219,900 Active 73 DOM
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2026-07-16days on market $219,900 Active 72 DOM
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2026-07-15days on market $219,900 Active 71 DOM
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2026-07-14days on market $219,900 Active 70 DOM
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2026-07-13days on market $219,900 Active 69 DOM
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2026-07-13days on market $219,900 Active 68 DOM
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2026-07-11days on market $219,900 Active 67 DOM
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2026-07-10days on market $219,900 Active 66 DOM
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2026-07-09days on market $219,900 Active 65 DOM
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2026-07-07days on market $219,900 Active 63 DOM
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2026-07-06days on market $219,900 Active 62 DOM
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2026-07-05days on market $219,900 Active 61 DOM
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2026-07-03days on market $219,900 Active 59 DOM
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2026-07-02days on market $219,900 Active 58 DOM
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2026-07-01days on market $219,900 Active 57 DOM
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2026-06-30days on market $219,900 Active 56 DOM
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2026-06-29days on market $219,900 Active 55 DOM
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2026-06-28days on market $219,900 Active 54 DOM
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2026-06-27days on market $219,900 Active 53 DOM
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2026-06-27days on market $219,900 Active 52 DOM
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2026-06-25days on market $219,900 Active 50 DOM
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2026-06-22days on market $219,900 Active 48 DOM
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2026-06-21days on market $219,900 Active 47 DOM
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2026-06-18days on market $219,900 Active 44 DOM
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2026-06-17days on market $219,900 Active 43 DOM
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2026-06-16days on market $219,900 Active 42 DOM
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2026-06-15days on market $219,900 Active 41 DOM
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2026-06-13days on market $219,900 Active 39 DOM
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2026-06-10days on market $219,900 Active 36 DOM
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2026-06-09days on market $219,900 Active 35 DOM
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2026-06-08days on market $219,900 Active 34 DOM
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2026-06-07days on market $219,900 Active 33 DOM
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2026-06-03days on market $219,900 Active 29 DOM
ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot
backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.
Climate risk First Street
- Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
- Wildfire 1/10 Low
- Heat 10/10 Extreme 7 d/yr ≥108°F today · 19 d/yr by 30 yrs out
- Wind 9/10 Extreme 99% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
- Air quality 2/10 Low 1 unhealthy d/yr today · 2 by 30 yrs out
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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi
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Taxation est. · year 1
- Rental income
- $23,648
- − Mortgage interest
- −$12,318
- − Property taxes
- −$3,298
- − Insurance
- −$1,100
- − Repairs & maintenance
- −$1,892
- − Management
- −$1,892
- − HOA
- −$5,700
- − Depreciation
- −$6,397
- Taxable loss
- −$8,949
- Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
- +$2,148
- After-tax cash flow
- $-3,107/yr
For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.
Condition & rehab AI · 12 photos
This two-bedroom, two-and-a-half-bath condo is in good condition with recent updates, making it move-in ready and well-suited for both resale and rental.
Value-add opportunities
- Both Painting the exterior and interior walls — Fresh paint enhances curb appeal and interior aesthetics. ↑
- Both Upgrading the kitchen backsplash — A modern backsplash can add value and functionality to the kitchen. ↑
- Both Installing smart home devices — Smart home devices can increase convenience and appeal to potential buyers/renters. ↑
- Both Landscaping improvements — Enhanced landscaping can boost curb appeal and attract more interest from potential buyers/renters. ↑
ⓘ Rehab cost is a screening estimate — Cosmetic scope × the home's square footage at US $/sqft rules of thumb (the same model as the Flip Finder). Get contractor quotes + a written scope before underwriting.
Zoned Schools
Schools (NCES district)
- District
- St. Tammany Parish
- NCES district ID
- 2201650
- Math proficiency
- 43% ▼ -32.00%
- Reading proficiency
- 55% ▼ -26.00%
- Median HH income
- $61,752
- Composite
- 43.04/100
- National rank
- #3098
- State rank
- #11 of 98 in LA
Livability — Mandeville
- Score
- 77/100
- State rank
- #13
- US rank
- #3224
Category grades
Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.
Census & demographics
- Census place
- Mandeville, LA
- County
- Saint Tammany Parish · 286,725 people
- City population
- 50,537
- Metro
- New Orleans-Metairie, LA
- Population (ZIP)
- 26,338
- Household income
- $95,682
- Rent vs Own
- Severe rent burden
- 4% of renters
Population outlook (St. Tammany County) Hauer SSP2
- Today (2025)
- 286,725 people
- By 2030
- 304,175 · +6.1%
- By 2040
- 336,203 · +17.3%
- By 2050
- 364,590 · +27.2%
- By 2075
- 433,362 · +51.1%
- By 2100
- 470,333 · +64.0%
Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023
- Neighborhood character
- Predominantly White (82%)
- Race & ethnicity
- White 82% Two or more races 10% Hispanic / Latino 9% Black 5% Asian 1%
- Hispanic origin (detail)
- Mexican 3%
- Common ancestry
- Lithuanian 16% Italian 2% Slovak 2%
- Foreign-born
- 5% · Canada, Vietnam, Jamaica
- Languages at home
- 92% English-only · Spanish 4% Russian/Polish/Slavic 1% German/W. Germanic 1%
Political lean MEDSL · St. Tammany
- 2024 margin
- Solid R (+43.8) · D 27.3% · R 71.1% · Other 1.6%
- 2008→2024 swing
- +9.6pp toward D · 2008: -53.4pp · 2024: -43.8pp
- All cycles
- 2024: R+43.8 2020: R+44.2 2016: R+50.8 2012: R+52.2 2008: R+53.4
Not yet ingested
- Civics
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Market trends
- HPI YoY
- ▼ -113.97%
- Current HPI
- 179.9084
- Rent YoY
- ▲ 1.06%
- Metro
- New Orleans-Metairie, LA
- State GDP YoY
- ▲ 3.29%
- F500 in state
- 10
Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in LA)
| Industry | F500 HQs | Revenue |
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| Telecommunications | 2 | $23B |
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| Utilities | 1 | $12B |
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| Wholesale / Distribution | 1 | $5B |
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| Advertising | 1 | $2B |
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Price history
-2.3% since first listed4 events — show timeline
- 2026-05-27 Price Changed $219,900 AcadianaMLS
- 2026-05-27 Price Changed $219,900 GSREIN
- 2026-05-05 Listed $225,000 GSREIN
- 2026-05-05 Listed $225,000 AcadianaMLS
Cash-flow waterfall
monthlySold comps — $/sqft
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