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16545 W Carmen Dr
D Composite 40.81
Why this score? — see what drove the D grade

The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • ARV discount +13.0/15.0
  • Cash flow +7.7/30.0
  • Appreciation +5.1/10.0
  • Livability +3.7/5.0
  • Schools +3.3/10.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • Rent growth +2.4/5.0
  • DSCR +1.8/10.0
  • 1% rule +1.3/10.0

$385,200

16545 W Carmen Dr · Surprise, AZ 85388
3 bd · 4.0 ba · 2,257 sqft · SingleFamily public records · 56 Days on market
Built 2003 6,345 sqft lot $171/sqft · 12% below area Est $439k · 12% under $70/mo HOA · 3% of rent

🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Listing remarks MLS

2 story home with a two living rooms and a dining area. Kitchen has white cabinets butcher block countertops, appliances and tile flooring. Upstairs there is a primary bedroom with bath dual sinks separate tub and shower and large walk in closet, 2 bedrooms and a full bath. This home backyard with pebble tek pool and water fall.

Key facts

  • White cabinets
  • Dining area
  • Tile flooring

Tags

TWO LIVING ROOMSDINING AREAWHITE CABINETSBUTCHER BLOCK COUNTERTOPSTILE FLOORINGPRIMARY BEDROOM

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 3-bed/4.0-bath single-family listed at $385k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $-450 ($-5k/yr) — negative.
  • To cash-flow at today's rent, offer at most $306k (20.6% below list).
  • To meet the 1% rule (rent ≥ 1% of price), the offer needs to be $244k (36.5% below list).
  • Recommended offer: $244k (36.5% below list) — sets the bar for 1% rule.
  • Cap rate 4.9% vs local median 3.3% in Surprise — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 74/100 on livability (#19 in AZ, #4,616 nationally) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: crime A+, housing A+, employment A-; Watch: health & safety D+, amenities D-, commute F.
  • Dysart Unified District (4243) (suburban): math 34% / reading 40% proficiency, ranked #73 of 249 in AZ (top 29%) — families likely to look elsewhere, expect single-tenant / working-renter base with shorter leases.
  • Zoned schools: Cimarron Springs Middle School (math 45% / reading 49%, grade D+, #40 of 218 statewide, top 19%, 589 students, 35% FRL); Willow Canyon High School (math 36% / reading 44%, grade F, #70 of 381 statewide, top 18%, 1,787 students, 32% FRL).
  • Market conditions: Rents soft (-0.6%/yr); 389 active listings in the ZIP; 40 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals at typical pace (median 26d on market — plan ~3-4 weeks tenant-placement turnaround); 48% of comp listings sitting > 30 days — soft ceiling on asking rent; high-income renter base; 36,011 units permitted in Maricopa County in 2024 (12,801 in 5+ unit buildings).

Forward outlook

  • In year one you build about $4k of equity ($3k loan paydown + $1k appreciation (0.3% local appreciation)).
  • Maricopa County population projected at +38% by 2050 — long-run rental-demand tailwind backs the buy-and-hold thesis.
  • By year 8, paydown + projected appreciation supports a ~$35k cash-out refi (75% LTV) — recoverable capital for the next deal without selling this one.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 56 days — a 3% lower offer ($374k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 3 sale attempts since 15y ago; this cycle's ask has dropped $43k (10%) from the opening price — seller is motivated, your offer sets the floor, not the list.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Climate carrying-cost: extreme-heat days projected 7→17/yr by 2055 (HVAC capex compounding) — expect insurance premiums to compound above CPI over the hold.
Recommended offer $244,479 (36.5% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
  2. It's been on market 56 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 37% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
  3. What does the HOA fee cover, when was the last increase, and are there any pending special assessments or reserve-fund shortfalls?
  4. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  5. The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
  6. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  7. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  8. How much new for-sale + rental construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply typically softens prices + rents 12–24 months out; constrained supply supports both.

Investment metrics

1% rule
0.63%
Cap rate
4.89%
Cash-on-cash
-5.00%
DSCR
0.78
GRM
13.1

CMA / ARV

ARV (median comp)
$439,286
List price
$385,200
Delta
-12.31%
Verdict
UNDERPRICED
Comps
20 within 1.0 mi
Show comp detail 12 sales within ~0.75 mi
Address Dist Beds/Ba Sqft Sold Price $/sf Match
15881 N 165th Ln 0.25mi 4/2.5 (+1) 2,232 (-1%) 2mo $427,000 $191 74
16533 W Carmen Dr 0.02mi 4/3.0 (+1) 2,534 (+12%) 2mo $557,000 $220 68
16852 W Central St 0.55mi 3/2.5 2,220 (-2%) 3mo $420,000 $189 63
15961 W Marconi Ave 0.54mi 3/2.0 2,174 (-4%) 2mo $493,500 $227 59
16639 W Saguaro Ln 0.18mi 4/3.0 (+1) 2,548 (+13%) 3mo $470,000 $184 59
16220 N 162nd Ln 0.51mi 4/3.0 (+1) 2,166 (-4%) 3mo $415,000 $192 58
16864 W Tasha Dr 0.73mi 3/2.5 2,255 (-0%) 2mo $370,000 $164 58
15917 W Port AU Prince Ln 0.60mi 4/2.5 (+1) 2,382 (+6%) 0mo $425,000 $178 52
16912 W Saguaro Ln 0.53mi 4/2.5 (+1) 2,567 (+14%) 1mo $502,525 $196 40
15933 W Statler St W 0.72mi 3/2.5 1,949 (-14%) 0mo $433,000 $222 38
15326 N 158th Ln 0.64mi 4/2.5 (+1) 2,554 (+13%) 4mo $458,000 $179 34
15836 W Acapulco Ln 0.67mi 4/2.5 (+1) 2,595 (+15%) 2mo $380,000 $146 32

Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.

Projected returns pro-forma

0.28% appreciation · 0.0% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
-8.3%
Equity multiple
0.61×
Total profit
$-42,033
Equity at exit
$117,357
10-year hold
IRR
-4.0%
Equity multiple
0.58×
Total profit
$-45,268
Equity at exit
$145,542

Cash invested: $107,856 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
87 Strongly Landlord-Friendly
State Arizona
87 Strongly Landlord-Friendly · R+3
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
5-day pay-or-quit; AZ courts known for speed; no state rent control; cities preempted by state law.

ZIP-level market 85388

Home prices YoY
0.1%
Rents YoY
-0.6%
Active inventory
389
Price-to-rent
13.1×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$2,445 high interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$2,020
Tax from tax record
$131 /mo · $1,567/yr
Insurance
$160
HOA
$70
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$513
Net cashflow
$-450

Break-even live

Break-even rent $3,014
Max offer price $305,760
Occupancy floor

Sensitivity live

Price -10% $-232 -5% $-341 +0% $-450 +5% $-559 +10% $-668
Rent -10% $-643 -5% $-546 +0% $-450 +5% $-353 +10% $-257
Rate -1.0pp $-256 -0.5pp $-352 base $-450 +0.5pp $-550 +1.0pp $-651

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$96,300
Closing costs
$11,556
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Rent comps 40 comps

AddressBedsBaths SqftRent$/sqft DOM Units Dist
16523 W Saguaro Ln Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.0 1621 $2,175 $1.34 3d 1 0.03mi
16663 W Rimrock St Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.5 2192 $2,195 $1.00 0d 1 0.33mi
16121 N 168th Ave Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.5 2567 $2,695 $1.05 26d 1 0.51mi
16818 W Marshall Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 3.0 2567 $1,895 $0.74 17d 1 0.53mi
15943 W Central St Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.0 1576 $1,895 $1.20 7d 1 0.55mi
16612 W Cottonwood St Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.0 1603 $1,749 $1.09 20d 1 0.59mi
16612 W Cottonwood St Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.0 1603 $1,749 $1.09 0d 1 0.59mi
16189 W Mauna Loa Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.0 1602 $2,069 $1.29 3d 1 0.59mi
16559 W Post Dr Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.0 1603 $1,789 $1.12 23d 1 0.60mi
16037 W Custer Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.0 2050 $2,045 $1.00 45d 1 0.60mi
16903 W Marconi Ave Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.5 2426 $2,295 $0.95 45d 1 0.62mi
16184 N 159th Ave Surprise, AZ 4.0 3.0 2214 $2,700 $1.22 45d 1 0.72mi
15941 W Mauna Loa Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 3.0 2958 $4,000 $1.35 45d 1 0.72mi
15797 W Caribbean Ln Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.0 1988 $1,791 $0.90 14d 1 0.74mi
15911 W Tasha Dr Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.5 1734 $1,880 $1.08 45d 1 0.78mi
15528 N 156th Ln Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.0 1668 $1,849 $1.11 6d 1 0.80mi
15927 N 171st Dr Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.0 1670 $3,200 $1.92 45d 1 0.85mi
16182 N 157th Dr Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.5 2426 $2,500 $1.03 45d 1 0.87mi
15840 W Evans Dr Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.0 1756 $2,250 $1.28 45d 1 0.94mi
17127 W Statler St Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.5 2543 $2,600 $1.02 26d 1 0.94mi
17229 W Caribbean Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 3.0 2291 $2,245 $0.98 6d 1 1.01mi
16003 N Cristine Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.5 2379 $2,200 $0.92 45d 1 1.02mi
17236 W Country Gables Dr Surprise, AZ 4.0 3.0 2291 $2,795 $1.22 45d 1 1.05mi
15560 W Acapulco Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.0 1756 $1,899 $1.08 6d 1 1.05mi
17272 W Marshall Ln Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.5 2004 $2,085 $1.04 45d 1 1.07mi
14945 N 172nd Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.0 1699 $2,099 $1.24 7d 1 1.08mi
17315 W Tara Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.5 2379 $2,500 $1.05 13d 1 1.13mi
15746 W Elm St Surprise, AZ 3.0 3.0 2588 $1,798 $0.69 45d 1 1.13mi
16223 W Boca Raton Rd Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.0 1647 $2,200 $1.34 45d 1 1.13mi
16444 N 172nd Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 3.0 2285 $2,795 $1.22 13d 1 1.15mi
17331 W Saguaro Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.5 2403 $2,295 $0.96 45d 1 1.17mi
17460 N Estrella Vista Dr Surprise, AZ 2.0 2.0 1627 $3,200 $1.97 45d 1 1.19mi
15473 W Tasha Cir Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.0 2090 $4,500 $2.15 45d 1 1.21mi
17440 W Caribbean Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.5 2159 $2,300 $1.07 4d 1 1.23mi
15512 N 174th Ln Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.0 2147 $3,000 $1.40 45d 1 1.25mi
15749 W Ventura St Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.0 2071 $2,199 $1.06 22d 1 1.25mi
15847 W Bridgewood Dr Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.0 2200 $3,850 $1.75 45d 1 1.25mi
17395 W Langer Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 3.0 1902 $1,995 $1.05 26d 1 1.27mi
15755 W Redfield Rd Surprise, AZ 3.0 2.5 1723 $3,750 $2.18 45d 1 1.27mi
15164 N 173rd Ln Surprise, AZ 4.0 2.5 2048 $2,495 $1.22 25d 1 1.27mi

HOA detail

Monthly dues
$70 · $840/yr
Likely covers
waterpool

Listing history 10 events

  1. 2026-05-15
    price $385,200 332-char remark
    Show marketing remark (332 chars)

    2 story home with a two living rooms and a dining area. Kitchen has white cabinets butcher block countertops, appliances and tile flooring. Upstairs there is a primary bedroom with bath dual sinks separate tub and shower and large walk in closet, 2 bedrooms and a full bath. This home backyard with pebble tek pool and water fall.

  2. 2026-03-31
    listed $428,000 Active 332-char remark
    Show marketing remark (332 chars)

    2 story home with a two living rooms and a dining area. Kitchen has white cabinets butcher block countertops, appliances and tile flooring. Upstairs there is a primary bedroom with bath dual sinks separate tub and shower and large walk in closet, 2 bedrooms and a full bath. This home backyard with pebble tek pool and water fall.

  3. 2023-04-28
    soldstatus $441,000 Closed 381-char remark
    Show marketing remark (381 chars)

    Great Location!! Close to Loop 303, Costco, golf course, dining and shopping. Beautiful two stories house very well maintained with 3 bedroom, 2.5 bathroom. Great Kitchen with upgraded Granite countertops. Fully landscaped backyard is great for entertaining with pebble-tech pool. Loft and 3 bedrooms upstairs, inlcuding master bedroom. Don't miss this great home at a great price!

  4. 2023-04-28
    soldstatus $441,000
    Show marketing remark (381 chars)

    Great Location!! Close to Loop 303, Costco, golf course, dining and shopping. Beautiful two stories house very well maintained with 3 bedroom, 2.5 bathroom. Great Kitchen with upgraded Granite countertops. Fully landscaped backyard is great for entertaining with pebble-tech pool. Loft and 3 bedrooms upstairs, inlcuding master bedroom. Don't miss this great home at a great price!

  5. 2023-01-23
    status Pending 381-char remark
    Show marketing remark (381 chars)

    Great Location!! Close to Loop 303, Costco, golf course, dining and shopping. Beautiful two stories house very well maintained with 3 bedroom, 2.5 bathroom. Great Kitchen with upgraded Granite countertops. Fully landscaped backyard is great for entertaining with pebble-tech pool. Loft and 3 bedrooms upstairs, inlcuding master bedroom. Don't miss this great home at a great price!

  6. 2023-01-16
    price $441,000 381-char remark
    Show marketing remark (381 chars)

    Great Location!! Close to Loop 303, Costco, golf course, dining and shopping. Beautiful two stories house very well maintained with 3 bedroom, 2.5 bathroom. Great Kitchen with upgraded Granite countertops. Fully landscaped backyard is great for entertaining with pebble-tech pool. Loft and 3 bedrooms upstairs, inlcuding master bedroom. Don't miss this great home at a great price!

  7. 2022-12-01
    listed $445,000 Active 381-char remark
    Show marketing remark (381 chars)

    Great Location!! Close to Loop 303, Costco, golf course, dining and shopping. Beautiful two stories house very well maintained with 3 bedroom, 2.5 bathroom. Great Kitchen with upgraded Granite countertops. Fully landscaped backyard is great for entertaining with pebble-tech pool. Loft and 3 bedrooms upstairs, inlcuding master bedroom. Don't miss this great home at a great price!

  8. 2011-12-05
    soldstatus $145,000 Closed
  9. 2011-11-16
    status Pending
  10. 2011-09-28
    listed $160,160 Active

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Tax reassessment forecast AZ · Resets to sale price

Current annual tax
$1,567 · $131/mo
Projected year-2 tax
$2,542 · $212/mo
Expected delta
+$976/yr (+$81/mo · 62.3%)

ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (shaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 4/10 Moderate
  • 🌡 Heat 9/10 Extreme 7 d/yr ≥112°F today · 17 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 1/10 Low
  • 🫁 Air quality 2/10 Low 1 unhealthy d/yr today · 1 by 30 yrs out

Nearby sold comps map

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$29,337
− Mortgage interest
−$21,577
− Property taxes
−$1,567
− Insurance
−$1,926
− Repairs & maintenance
−$2,347
− Management
−$2,347
− HOA
−$840
− Depreciation
−$11,206
Taxable loss
−$12,472
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
+$2,993
After-tax cash flow
$-2,403/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Dysart Unified District (4243)
NCES district ID
0402690
Math proficiency
34% ▼ -10.00%
Reading proficiency
40% ▼ -5.00%
Median HH income
$58,033
Composite
32.76/100
National rank
#5634
State rank
#73 of 249 in AZ

Livability — Surprise

Score
74/100
State rank
#19
US rank
#4616

Category grades

Amenities D- Commute F Cost of living C Crime A+ Employment A- Housing A+ Health & safety D+ User ratings C+

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
Surprise, AZ
County
Maricopa County · 4,537,380 people
City population
160,031
Metro
Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler, AZ
Population (ZIP)
35,369
Household income
$112,164
Rent vs Own
18.1% rent · 81.9% own
Severe rent burden
224.0

Population outlook (Maricopa County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
4,979,203 people
By 2030
5,378,229 · +8.0%
By 2040
6,156,598 · +23.6%
By 2050
6,872,376 · +38.0%
By 2075
8,401,270 · +68.7%
By 2100
9,247,439 · +85.7%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Diverse neighborhood (Simpson 0.57)
Race & ethnicity
White 61% Hispanic / Latino 22% Two or more races 12% Black 6% Asian 2% Native American 1%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Mexican 16%
Common ancestry
Romanian 3% Italian 3% Portuguese 2%
Foreign-born
8% · Canada
Languages at home
88% English-only · Spanish 7% Russian/Polish/Slavic 2% Tagalog/Filipino 1%

Political lean MEDSL · Maricopa

2024 margin
Toss-up / Even · D 47.7% · R 51.2% · Other 1.1%
2008→2024 swing
+7.1pp toward D · 2008: -10.6pp · 2024: -3.5pp
All cycles
2024: R+3.5 2020: D+2.2 2016: R+3.5 2012: R+12.0 2008: R+10.6

Not yet ingested

Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▲ 0.28%
Current HPI
272.9859
Rent YoY
▼ -0.57%
Metro
Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler, AZ
State GDP YoY
▲ 4.54%
F500 in state
20

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in AZ)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

+140.5% since first listed
10 events — show timeline
  • 2026-05-15 Price Changed $385,200 ARMLS
  • 2026-03-31 Listed $428,000 ARMLS
  • 2023-04-28 Sold (Public Records) $441,000 Public Records
  • 2023-04-28 Sold (MLS) $441,000 ARMLS
  • 2023-01-23 Pending ARMLS
  • 2023-01-16 Price Changed $441,000 ARMLS
  • 2022-12-01 Listed $445,000 ARMLS
  • 2011-12-05 Sold (MLS) $145,000 ARMLS
  • 2011-11-16 Pending ARMLS
  • 2011-09-28 Listed $160,160 ARMLS

Property tax history

+0.2%/yr

Latest (2025): $1,567 · +7.0% YoY. Source: county tax records.

Cash-flow waterfall

monthly

Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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