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8030 Stiner Grv
D Composite 40.66
Why this score? — see what drove the D grade

The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • ARV discount +15.0/15.0
  • Cash flow +7.6/30.0
  • Schools +5.7/10.0
  • Livability +3.6/5.0
  • Rent growth +2.5/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • 1% rule +2.1/10.0
  • DSCR +1.7/10.0
  • Appreciation +0.0/10.0

$460,000

8030 Stiner Grv · Ball Ground, GA 30107
4 bd · 2.0 ba · 2,132 sqft · SingleFamily public records · 42 Days on market
Built 2022 0.34 ac lot $216/sqft · 27% below area Est $634k · 27% under $100/mo HOA · 3% of rent

🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Listing remarks MLS

Welcome to this exquisite ranch home, beautifully situated on a corner lot in the highly sought-after River Rock community. Set on the largest lot on the street, this meticulously maintained residence perfectly balances style and functionality with its open-concept layout, bathed in natural light. Enjoy the front covered porch for space to escape in the evening or morning for coffee. Off the welcoming foyer, you'll find a versatile flex space ideal for a 4th bedroom, den, or office. The gourmet kitchen, complete with stone counters, stained cabinets, stainless steel appliances, and a walk-in pantry, open floor plan to this spacious family room, making it the central hub for gatherings. The serene primary suite is a peaceful retreat, featuring a double vanity, a walk-in shower with a seat, a soaking tub framed by a stained-glass window that floods the room with natural light, and a large walk-in closet. Two additional bedrooms share a full bathroom, completing the split bedroom floor plan. Step outside to a large, fenced backyard with a back patio, perfect for entertaining. The expansive driveway accommodates up to 4 cars, along with a convenient side-entry 2-car garage. Many nice features such as the trey ceiling in the primary adds more open concept plus the living family space offers a nice trey ceiling as well. Additionally, a whole-house water purification system and a Reverse Osmosis system for drinking water have been installed for your comfort. Located in a well-maintained and safe community, River Rock boasts luxury amenities such as a playground, swimming pools, tennis courts, a clubhouse, and scenic walking trails. The neighborhood also hosts a variety of events and festivals throughout the year, fostering a lively and welcoming atmosphere. Schedule your private showing today to experience the charm, tranquility, and extensive upgrades that make this home truly exceptional!

Key facts

  • Front covered porch
  • Flex space
  • Gourmet kitchen

Tags

CORNER LOTLARGEST LOTFRONT COVERED PORCHFLEX SPACEGOURMET KITCHENWALK-IN PANTRY

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 4-bed/2.0-bath single-family listed at $460k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $-545 ($-7k/yr) — negative.
  • To cash-flow at today's rent, offer at most $364k (20.9% below list).
  • To meet the 1% rule (rent ≥ 1% of price), the offer needs to be $325k (29.3% below list).
  • Recommended offer: $325k (29.3% below list) — sets the bar for 1% rule.
  • Cap rate 4.9% vs local median 1.5% in Ball Ground — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 71/100 on livability (#80 in GA) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: crime A+, employment A+, housing A+; Watch: amenities F, commute F, health & safety D-.
  • Forsyth County (suburban): math 62% / reading 62% proficiency, ranked #5 of 174 in GA (top 3%) — acceptable for families but not a draw, mixed tenant base, ~2y average lease; only 15% free/reduced lunch — higher-income household profile.
  • Zoned schools: Matt Elementary School (math 58% / reading 53%, grade C, #173 of 1,228 statewide, top 14%, 1,116 students, 15% FRL); Liberty Middle School (math 48% / reading 59%, grade C+, #56 of 470 statewide, top 12%, 1,032 students, 14% FRL); North Forsyth High School (math 22% / reading 37%, grade F, #140 of 424 statewide, top 35%, 2,065 students, 14% FRL) — zoned schools at 14% FRL track the district average.
  • Zoned-school proficiency averages 46% at this address vs 62% district-wide (-16 pts) — the specific schools serving this property underperform the Forsyth County average; the district grade overstates school quality for this exact location.
  • Market conditions: 320 active listings in the ZIP; 3 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals leasing fast (median 0d on market — plan ~1-2 weeks tenant-placement turnaround); high-income renter base; 2,525 units permitted in Forsyth County in 2024 (810 in 5+ unit buildings).
  • This rent runs 35% of the median local income ($111k/yr) — at the standard rent-burdened threshold; future hikes will face affordability resistance.

Forward outlook

  • Local home prices are declining (-3.0%/yr); year-one equity from $3k of loan paydown is wiped out by about $14k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
  • Forsyth County population projected at +71% by 2050 — long-run rental-demand tailwind backs the buy-and-hold thesis.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 42 days — a 3% lower offer ($446k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 16 sale attempts since 4y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Climate carrying-cost: extreme-heat days projected 7→18/yr by 2055 (HVAC capex compounding) — expect insurance premiums to compound above CPI over the hold.
Recommended offer $325,443 (29.3% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
  2. It's been on market 42 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 29% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
  3. What does the HOA fee cover, when was the last increase, and are there any pending special assessments or reserve-fund shortfalls?
  4. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  5. Schools are D-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
  6. The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
  7. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  8. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  9. How much new for-sale + rental construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply typically softens prices + rents 12–24 months out; constrained supply supports both.

Investment metrics

1% rule
0.71%
Cap rate
4.87%
Cash-on-cash
-5.08%
DSCR
0.77
GRM
11.8

CMA / ARV

ARV (median comp)
$634,473
List price
$460,000
Delta
-27.50%
Verdict
UNDERPRICED
Comps
20 within 1.0 mi
Show comp detail 6 sales within ~0.75 mi
Address Dist Beds/Ba Sqft Sold Price $/sf Match
7920 Scenic Ridge Way 0.11mi 3/2.0 (-1) 2,128 (-0%) 15mo $575,000 $270 77
8010 Veranda Curv 0.11mi 3/2.0 (-1) 2,076 (-3%) 20mo $532,000 $256 69
7940 Garnet Trce 0.20mi 3/2.0 (-1) 2,060 (-3%) 15mo $555,000 $269 68
8085 River Chase Dr 0.63mi 3/3.5 (-1) 1,988 (-7%) 2mo $410,000 $206 47
8645 River Rock Ct 0.63mi 4/3.5 1,920 (-10%) 14mo $440,000 $229 36
8460 River Hill Commons Dr 0.70mi 3/2.0 (-1) 1,862 (-13%) 10mo $365,000 $196 33

Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.

Projected returns pro-forma

-3.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
-24.9%
Equity multiple
0.15×
Total profit
$-109,225
Equity at exit
$68,587
10-year hold
IRR
-20.8%
Equity multiple
-0.08×
Total profit
$-139,746
Equity at exit
$39,772

Cash invested: $128,800 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
90 Strongly Landlord-Friendly
State Georgia
90 Strongly Landlord-Friendly · R+3
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
Magistrate court evictions in 10-30 days; no rent control; preempted; few tenant protections.

ZIP-level market 30107

Home prices YoY
-18.9%
Active inventory
320
Price-to-rent
11.8×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$3,254 medium interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$2,412
Tax from tax record
$412 /mo · $4,942/yr
Insurance
$192
HOA
$100
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$683
Net cashflow
$-545

Break-even live

Break-even rent $3,944
Max offer price $363,766
Occupancy floor

Sensitivity live

Price -10% $-284 -5% $-415 +0% $-545 +5% $-675 +10% $-805
Rent -10% $-802 -5% $-673 +0% $-545 +5% $-416 +10% $-288
Rate -1.0pp $-313 -0.5pp $-428 base $-545 +0.5pp $-664 +1.0pp $-785

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$115,000
Closing costs
$13,800
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Rent comps 3 comps

AddressBedsBaths SqftRent$/sqft DOM Units Dist
8085 Brewton Bnd Ball Ground, GA 5.0 3.0 2960 $3,200 $1.08 0d 1 0.17mi
8175 Scenic Ridge Way Ball Ground, GA 5.0 4.5 2745 $3,500 $1.28 0d 1 0.22mi
8335 River Hill Commons Dr Ball Ground, GA 4.0 2.5 2612 $2,401 $0.92 0d 1 0.88mi

HOA detail

Monthly dues
$100 · $1,200/yr
Likely covers
waterpool

Listing history 43 events

  1. 2026-04-16
    listed $460,000 New 1918-char remark
    Show marketing remark (1918 chars)

    Welcome to this exquisite ranch home, beautifully situated on a corner lot in the highly sought-after River Rock community. Set on the largest lot on the street, this meticulously maintained residence perfectly balances style and functionality with its open-concept layout, bathed in natural light. Enjoy the front covered porch for space to escape in the evening or morning for coffee. Off the welcoming foyer, you'll find a versatile flex space ideal for a 4th bedroom, den, or office. The gourmet kitchen, complete with stone counters, stained cabinets, stainless steel appliances, and a walk-in pantry, open floor plan to this spacious family room, making it the central hub for gatherings. The serene primary suite is a peaceful retreat, featuring a double vanity, a walk-in shower with a seat, a soaking tub framed by a stained-glass window that floods the room with natural light, and a large walk-in closet. Two additional bedrooms share a full bathroom, completing the split bedroom floor plan. Step outside to a large, fenced backyard with a back patio, perfect for entertaining. The expansive driveway accommodates up to 4 cars, along with a convenient side-entry 2-car garage. Many nice features such as the trey ceiling in the primary adds more open concept plus the living family space offers a nice trey ceiling as well. Additionally, a whole-house water purification system and a Reverse Osmosis system for drinking water have been installed for your comfort. Located in a well-maintained and safe community, River Rock boasts luxury amenities such as a playground, swimming pools, tennis courts, a clubhouse, and scenic walking trails. The neighborhood also hosts a variety of events and festivals throughout the year, fostering a lively and welcoming atmosphere. Schedule your private showing today to experience the charm, tranquility, and extensive upgrades that make this home truly exceptional!

  2. 2026-04-16
    listed $460,000 Active 1918-char remark
    Show marketing remark (1918 chars)

    Welcome to this exquisite ranch home, beautifully situated on a corner lot in the highly sought-after River Rock community. Set on the largest lot on the street, this meticulously maintained residence perfectly balances style and functionality with its open-concept layout, bathed in natural light. Enjoy the front covered porch for space to escape in the evening or morning for coffee. Off the welcoming foyer, you'll find a versatile flex space ideal for a 4th bedroom, den, or office. The gourmet kitchen, complete with stone counters, stained cabinets, stainless steel appliances, and a walk-in pantry, open floor plan to this spacious family room, making it the central hub for gatherings. The serene primary suite is a peaceful retreat, featuring a double vanity, a walk-in shower with a seat, a soaking tub framed by a stained-glass window that floods the room with natural light, and a large walk-in closet. Two additional bedrooms share a full bathroom, completing the split bedroom floor plan. Step outside to a large, fenced backyard with a back patio, perfect for entertaining. The expansive driveway accommodates up to 4 cars, along with a convenient side-entry 2-car garage. Many nice features such as the trey ceiling in the primary adds more open concept plus the living family space offers a nice trey ceiling as well. Additionally, a whole-house water purification system and a Reverse Osmosis system for drinking water have been installed for your comfort. Located in a well-maintained and safe community, River Rock boasts luxury amenities such as a playground, swimming pools, tennis courts, a clubhouse, and scenic walking trails. The neighborhood also hosts a variety of events and festivals throughout the year, fostering a lively and welcoming atmosphere. Schedule your private showing today to experience the charm, tranquility, and extensive upgrades that make this home truly exceptional!

  3. 2025-12-01
    historical
  4. 2025-07-25
    price $487,500
  5. 2025-07-08
    listed $490,000 New
  6. 2025-07-07
    historical
  7. 2025-07-07
    historical
  8. 2025-05-27
    price $490,000
  9. 2025-05-27
    price $490,000
  10. 2025-05-14
    price $500,000
  11. 2025-05-14
    price $500,000
  12. 2025-05-03
    listed $515,000 Active
  13. 2025-05-02
    listed $515,000 New
  14. 2025-05-02
    historical
  15. 2025-05-02
    historical
  16. 2025-04-10
    listed $525,000 Active
  17. 2025-04-10
    listed $525,000 New
  18. 2025-04-09
    historical
  19. 2025-04-09
    historical
  20. 2025-04-02
    listed $540,000 Active
  21. 2025-03-31
    historical
  22. 2025-03-31
    listed $540,000 New
  23. 2025-03-28
    historical
  24. 2025-03-28
    historical
  25. 2025-03-05
    price $549,900
  26. 2025-03-05
    price $549,900
  27. 2025-02-06
    listed $559,900 Active
  28. 2025-02-06
    listed $559,900 New
  29. 2024-12-15
    historical
  30. 2024-12-15
    historical
  31. 2024-11-05
    price $559,900
  32. 2024-11-05
    price $559,900
  33. 2024-10-17
    listed $575,000 Active
  34. 2024-10-17
    listed $575,000 New
  35. 2024-09-27
    historical
  36. 2024-09-27
    historical
  37. 2024-08-22
    listed $575,000 Active
  38. 2024-08-22
    listed $575,000 New
  39. 2022-08-18
    soldstatus $490,687 Closed
  40. 2022-06-24
    status Pending
  41. 2022-06-10
    historical
  42. 2022-06-10
    listed $490,687
  43. 2022-03-09
    soldstatus $2,835,000

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Tax reassessment forecast GA · Resets to sale price

Current annual tax
$4,942 · $412/mo
Projected year-2 tax
$4,942 · $412/mo
Expected delta
$0/yr ($0/mo · 0.0%)

ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 3/10 Moderate
  • 🌡 Heat 5/10 Major 7 d/yr ≥101°F today · 18 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 4/10 Moderate 9% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
  • 🫁 Air quality 3/10 Moderate 3 unhealthy d/yr today · 3 by 30 yrs out

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$39,053
− Mortgage interest
−$25,767
− Property taxes
−$4,942
− Insurance
−$2,300
− Repairs & maintenance
−$3,124
− Management
−$3,124
− HOA
−$1,200
− Depreciation
−$13,382
Taxable loss
−$14,786
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
+$3,549
After-tax cash flow
$-2,988/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Forsyth County
NCES district ID
1302220
Math proficiency
62% ▼ -13.00%
Reading proficiency
62% ▼ -11.00%
Median HH income
$89,763
Composite
56.54/100
National rank
#1151
State rank
#5 of 174 in GA

Livability — Ball Ground

Score
71/100
State rank
#80
US rank
#6900

Category grades

Amenities F Commute F Cost of living A- Crime A+ Employment A+ Housing A+ Health & safety D- User ratings A+

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

County
Cherokee County · 289,977 people
City population
19,134
Metro
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta, GA
Population (ZIP)
19,134
Household income
$110,811
Rent vs Own
10.6% rent · 89.4% own
Severe rent burden
93.0

Population outlook (Forsyth County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
294,519 people
By 2030
336,546 · +14.3%
By 2040
421,220 · +43.0%
By 2050
502,754 · +70.7%
By 2075
683,179 · +132.0%
By 2100
792,174 · +169.0%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Predominantly White (90%)
Race & ethnicity
White 90% Two or more races 5% Hispanic / Latino 4% Asian 2% Black 1%
Common ancestry
Slovak 3% Lithuanian 2% Serbian 2%
Foreign-born
4% · Canada, China, Jamaica
Languages at home
96% English-only · Spanish 3%

Political lean MEDSL · Forsyth

2024 margin
Solid R (+33.1) · D 32.9% · R 66.0% · Other 1.1%
2008→2024 swing
+24.9pp toward D · 2008: -58.0pp · 2024: -33.1pp
All cycles
2024: R+33.1 2020: R+33.2 2016: R+47.7 2012: R+62.9 2008: R+58.0

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▼ -65.64%
Current HPI
282.4155
Rent YoY
Metro
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta, GA
State GDP YoY
▲ 2.66%
F500 in state
28

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in GA)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

-83.8% since first listed
43 events — show timeline
  • 2026-04-16 Listed $460,000 FMLS
  • 2026-04-16 Listed $460,000 GAMLS
  • 2025-12-01 Listing Removed GAMLS
  • 2025-07-25 Price Changed $487,500 GAMLS
  • 2025-07-08 Listed $490,000 GAMLS
  • 2025-07-07 Listing Removed FMLS
  • 2025-07-07 Listing Removed GAMLS
  • 2025-05-27 Price Changed $490,000 FMLS
  • 2025-05-27 Price Changed $490,000 GAMLS
  • 2025-05-14 Price Changed $500,000 FMLS
  • 2025-05-14 Price Changed $500,000 GAMLS
  • 2025-05-03 Listed $515,000 FMLS
  • 2025-05-02 Listing Removed GAMLS
  • 2025-05-02 Listing Removed FMLS
  • 2025-05-02 Listed $515,000 GAMLS
  • 2025-04-10 Listed $525,000 GAMLS
  • 2025-04-10 Listed $525,000 FMLS
  • 2025-04-09 Listing Removed GAMLS
  • 2025-04-09 Listing Removed FMLS
  • 2025-04-02 Listed $540,000 FMLS
  • 2025-03-31 Coming Soon FMLS
  • 2025-03-31 Listed $540,000 GAMLS
  • 2025-03-28 Listing Removed GAMLS
  • 2025-03-28 Listing Removed FMLS
  • 2025-03-05 Price Changed $549,900 GAMLS
  • 2025-03-05 Price Changed $549,900 FMLS
  • 2025-02-06 Listed $559,900 GAMLS
  • 2025-02-06 Listed $559,900 FMLS
  • 2024-12-15 Listing Removed GAMLS
  • 2024-12-15 Listing Removed FMLS
  • 2024-11-05 Price Changed $559,900 GAMLS
  • 2024-11-05 Price Changed $559,900 FMLS
  • 2024-10-17 Listed $575,000 GAMLS
  • 2024-10-17 Listed $575,000 FMLS
  • 2024-09-27 Listing Removed GAMLS
  • 2024-09-27 Listing Removed FMLS
  • 2024-08-22 Listed $575,000 GAMLS
  • 2024-08-22 Listed $575,000 FMLS
  • 2022-08-18 Sold (MLS) $490,687 FMLS
  • 2022-06-24 Pending FMLS
  • 2022-06-10 Listed $490,687 FMLS
  • 2022-06-10 Listing Removed FMLS
  • 2022-03-09 Sold (Public Records) $2,835,000 Public Records

Property tax history

+10.2%/yr

Latest (2025): $4,942 · +2.4% YoY. Source: county tax records.

Cash-flow waterfall

monthly

Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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