8030 Stiner Grv · Ball Ground, GA
Flood risk 1/10 · Minimal
- FEMA flood zone
- X (unshaded)
- Chance of flooding over 30 yrs
- 0.0%
- Est. flood insurance / yr
- $507 – $1,088
Fire risk 3/10 · Minor
- Est. fire insurance / yr
- $963 – $1,789
Heat risk 5/10 · Moderate
- Hot days now (above 101°F)
- 7 days/yr
- Hot days in 30 yrs
- 18 days/yr
Wind risk 4/10 · Minor
- Chance of severe wind over 30 yrs
- 9.0%
Air-quality risk 3/10 · Minor
- Unhealthy air days now
- 3 days/yr
- Unhealthy air days in 30 yrs
- 3 days/yr
Risk factors via First Street. Map © Google.
Why this score? — see what drove the D grade
The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).
- ARV discount +15.0/15.0
- Cash flow +7.6/30.0
- Schools +5.7/10.0
- Livability +3.6/5.0
- Rent growth +2.5/5.0
- Condition / age +2.5/5.0
- 1% rule +2.1/10.0
- DSCR +1.7/10.0
- Appreciation +0.0/10.0
$460,000
🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence
Listing remarks MLS
Welcome to this exquisite ranch home, beautifully situated on a corner lot in the highly sought-after River Rock community. Set on the largest lot on the street, this meticulously maintained residence perfectly balances style and functionality with its open-concept layout, bathed in natural light. Enjoy the front covered porch for space to escape in the evening or morning for coffee. Off the welcoming foyer, you'll find a versatile flex space ideal for a 4th bedroom, den, or office. The gourmet kitchen, complete with stone counters, stained cabinets, stainless steel appliances, and a walk-in pantry, open floor plan to this spacious family room, making it the central hub for gatherings. The serene primary suite is a peaceful retreat, featuring a double vanity, a walk-in shower with a seat, a soaking tub framed by a stained-glass window that floods the room with natural light, and a large walk-in closet. Two additional bedrooms share a full bathroom, completing the split bedroom floor plan. Step outside to a large, fenced backyard with a back patio, perfect for entertaining. The expansive driveway accommodates up to 4 cars, along with a convenient side-entry 2-car garage. Many nice features such as the trey ceiling in the primary adds more open concept plus the living family space offers a nice trey ceiling as well. Additionally, a whole-house water purification system and a Reverse Osmosis system for drinking water have been installed for your comfort. Located in a well-maintained and safe community, River Rock boasts luxury amenities such as a playground, swimming pools, tennis courts, a clubhouse, and scenic walking trails. The neighborhood also hosts a variety of events and festivals throughout the year, fostering a lively and welcoming atmosphere. Schedule your private showing today to experience the charm, tranquility, and extensive upgrades that make this home truly exceptional!
Key facts
- Front covered porch
- Flex space
- Gourmet kitchen
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Neighborhood map
What this means for you Summary
Snapshot
- This is a 4-bed/2.0-bath single-family listed at $460k.
Deal economics
- At list price, monthly cash flow is $-545 ($-7k/yr) — negative.
- To cash-flow at today's rent, offer at most $364k (20.9% below list).
- To meet the 1% rule (rent ≥ 1% of price), the offer needs to be $325k (29.3% below list).
- Recommended offer: $325k (29.3% below list) — sets the bar for 1% rule.
- Cap rate 4.9% vs local median 1.5% in Ball Ground — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.
Location & tenants
- Location reads 71/100 on livability (#80 in GA) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: crime A+, employment A+, housing A+; Watch: amenities F, commute F, health & safety D-.
- Forsyth County (suburban): math 62% / reading 62% proficiency, ranked #5 of 174 in GA (top 3%) — acceptable for families but not a draw, mixed tenant base, ~2y average lease; only 15% free/reduced lunch — higher-income household profile.
- Zoned schools: Matt Elementary School (math 58% / reading 53%, grade C, #173 of 1,228 statewide, top 14%, 1,116 students, 15% FRL); Liberty Middle School (math 48% / reading 59%, grade C+, #56 of 470 statewide, top 12%, 1,032 students, 14% FRL); North Forsyth High School (math 22% / reading 37%, grade F, #140 of 424 statewide, top 35%, 2,065 students, 14% FRL) — zoned schools at 14% FRL track the district average.
- Zoned-school proficiency averages 46% at this address vs 62% district-wide (-16 pts) — the specific schools serving this property underperform the Forsyth County average; the district grade overstates school quality for this exact location.
- Market conditions: 320 active listings in the ZIP; 3 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals leasing fast (median 0d on market — plan ~1-2 weeks tenant-placement turnaround); high-income renter base; 2,525 units permitted in Forsyth County in 2024 (810 in 5+ unit buildings).
- This rent runs 35% of the median local income ($111k/yr) — at the standard rent-burdened threshold; future hikes will face affordability resistance.
Forward outlook
- Local home prices are declining (-3.0%/yr); year-one equity from $3k of loan paydown is wiped out by about $14k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
- Forsyth County population projected at +71% by 2050 — long-run rental-demand tailwind backs the buy-and-hold thesis.
Negotiation context
- It's been on market 42 days — a 3% lower offer ($446k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
- 16 sale attempts since 4y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
Risks & watch-outs
- Climate carrying-cost: extreme-heat days projected 7→18/yr by 2055 (HVAC capex compounding) — expect insurance premiums to compound above CPI over the hold.
Questions for the listing agent
- What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
- It's been on market 42 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 29% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
- What does the HOA fee cover, when was the last increase, and are there any pending special assessments or reserve-fund shortfalls?
- Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
- Schools are D-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
- The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
- What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
- What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
- How much new for-sale + rental construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply typically softens prices + rents 12–24 months out; constrained supply supports both.
Investment metrics
- 1% rule
- 0.71% ✗
- Cap rate
- 4.87%
- Cash-on-cash
- -5.08%
- DSCR
- 0.77
- GRM
- 11.8
CMA / ARV
- ARV (median comp)
- $634,473
- List price
- $460,000
- Delta
- -27.50%
- Verdict
- UNDERPRICED
- Comps
- 20 within 1.0 mi
Show comp detail 6 sales within ~0.75 mi
| Address | Dist | Beds/Ba | Sqft | Sold | Price | $/sf | Match |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7920 Scenic Ridge Way | 0.11mi | 3/2.0 (-1) | 2,128 (-0%) | 15mo | $575,000 | $270 | 77 |
| 8010 Veranda Curv | 0.11mi | 3/2.0 (-1) | 2,076 (-3%) | 20mo | $532,000 | $256 | 69 |
| 7940 Garnet Trce | 0.20mi | 3/2.0 (-1) | 2,060 (-3%) | 15mo | $555,000 | $269 | 68 |
| 8085 River Chase Dr | 0.63mi | 3/3.5 (-1) | 1,988 (-7%) | 2mo | $410,000 | $206 | 47 |
| 8645 River Rock Ct | 0.63mi | 4/3.5 | 1,920 (-10%) | 14mo | $440,000 | $229 | 36 |
| 8460 River Hill Commons Dr | 0.70mi | 3/2.0 (-1) | 1,862 (-13%) | 10mo | $365,000 | $196 | 33 |
Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.
Projected returns pro-forma
-3.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon
- IRR
- -24.9%
- Equity multiple
- 0.15×
- Total profit
- $-109,225
- Equity at exit
- $68,587
- IRR
- -20.8%
- Equity multiple
- -0.08×
- Total profit
- $-139,746
- Equity at exit
- $39,772
Cash invested: $128,800 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.
Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology
- Overall (STATE)
- 90 Strongly Landlord-Friendly
- State Georgia
- 90 Strongly Landlord-Friendly · R+3
- County
- — inherits STATE
- City
- — inherits STATE
ZIP-level market 30107
- Home prices YoY
- -18.9%
- Active inventory
- 320
- Price-to-rent
- 11.8×
Monthly cashflow live
- Estimated rent
- $3,254 medium interval (Pro) →
- Mortgage (P&I)
- −$2,412
- Tax from tax record
- −$412 /mo · $4,942/yr
- Insurance
- −$192
- HOA
- −$100
- Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
- −$683
- Net cashflow
- $-545
Break-even live
Sensitivity live
| Price | -10% $-284 | -5% $-415 | +0% $-545 | +5% $-675 | +10% $-805 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rent | -10% $-802 | -5% $-673 | +0% $-545 | +5% $-416 | +10% $-288 |
| Rate | -1.0pp $-313 | -0.5pp $-428 | base $-545 | +0.5pp $-664 | +1.0pp $-785 |
UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt
Financing live
Cash to close
- Down payment
- $115,000
- Closing costs
- $13,800
- Reserves months
- —
- Total cash needed
- —
Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live
Conventional
25% down · 7.5% · 30yr
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
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Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.
DSCR
20% down · 8.5% · 30yr
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
- —
No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.
Hard money
10% down · 12.0% · 12mo
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
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Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.
Rent comps 3 comps
| Address | Beds | Baths | Sqft | Rent | $/sqft | DOM | Units | Dist |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8085 Brewton Bnd Ball Ground, GA | 5.0 | 3.0 | 2960 | $3,200 | $1.08 | 0d | 1 | 0.17mi |
| 8175 Scenic Ridge Way Ball Ground, GA | 5.0 | 4.5 | 2745 | $3,500 | $1.28 | 0d | 1 | 0.22mi |
| 8335 River Hill Commons Dr Ball Ground, GA | 4.0 | 2.5 | 2612 | $2,401 | $0.92 | 0d | 1 | 0.88mi |
HOA detail
- Monthly dues
- $100 · $1,200/yr
- Likely covers
- waterpool
Listing history 43 events
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2026-04-16$460,000 New 1918-char remark
Show marketing remark (1918 chars)
Welcome to this exquisite ranch home, beautifully situated on a corner lot in the highly sought-after River Rock community. Set on the largest lot on the street, this meticulously maintained residence perfectly balances style and functionality with its open-concept layout, bathed in natural light. Enjoy the front covered porch for space to escape in the evening or morning for coffee. Off the welcoming foyer, you'll find a versatile flex space ideal for a 4th bedroom, den, or office. The gourmet kitchen, complete with stone counters, stained cabinets, stainless steel appliances, and a walk-in pantry, open floor plan to this spacious family room, making it the central hub for gatherings. The serene primary suite is a peaceful retreat, featuring a double vanity, a walk-in shower with a seat, a soaking tub framed by a stained-glass window that floods the room with natural light, and a large walk-in closet. Two additional bedrooms share a full bathroom, completing the split bedroom floor plan. Step outside to a large, fenced backyard with a back patio, perfect for entertaining. The expansive driveway accommodates up to 4 cars, along with a convenient side-entry 2-car garage. Many nice features such as the trey ceiling in the primary adds more open concept plus the living family space offers a nice trey ceiling as well. Additionally, a whole-house water purification system and a Reverse Osmosis system for drinking water have been installed for your comfort. Located in a well-maintained and safe community, River Rock boasts luxury amenities such as a playground, swimming pools, tennis courts, a clubhouse, and scenic walking trails. The neighborhood also hosts a variety of events and festivals throughout the year, fostering a lively and welcoming atmosphere. Schedule your private showing today to experience the charm, tranquility, and extensive upgrades that make this home truly exceptional!
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2026-04-16$460,000 Active 1918-char remark
Show marketing remark (1918 chars)
Welcome to this exquisite ranch home, beautifully situated on a corner lot in the highly sought-after River Rock community. Set on the largest lot on the street, this meticulously maintained residence perfectly balances style and functionality with its open-concept layout, bathed in natural light. Enjoy the front covered porch for space to escape in the evening or morning for coffee. Off the welcoming foyer, you'll find a versatile flex space ideal for a 4th bedroom, den, or office. The gourmet kitchen, complete with stone counters, stained cabinets, stainless steel appliances, and a walk-in pantry, open floor plan to this spacious family room, making it the central hub for gatherings. The serene primary suite is a peaceful retreat, featuring a double vanity, a walk-in shower with a seat, a soaking tub framed by a stained-glass window that floods the room with natural light, and a large walk-in closet. Two additional bedrooms share a full bathroom, completing the split bedroom floor plan. Step outside to a large, fenced backyard with a back patio, perfect for entertaining. The expansive driveway accommodates up to 4 cars, along with a convenient side-entry 2-car garage. Many nice features such as the trey ceiling in the primary adds more open concept plus the living family space offers a nice trey ceiling as well. Additionally, a whole-house water purification system and a Reverse Osmosis system for drinking water have been installed for your comfort. Located in a well-maintained and safe community, River Rock boasts luxury amenities such as a playground, swimming pools, tennis courts, a clubhouse, and scenic walking trails. The neighborhood also hosts a variety of events and festivals throughout the year, fostering a lively and welcoming atmosphere. Schedule your private showing today to experience the charm, tranquility, and extensive upgrades that make this home truly exceptional!
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2025-12-01historical
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2025-07-25price $487,500
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2025-07-08$490,000 New
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2025-07-07historical
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2025-07-07historical
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2025-05-27price $490,000
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2025-05-27price $490,000
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2025-05-14price $500,000
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2025-05-14price $500,000
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2025-05-03$515,000 Active
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2025-05-02$515,000 New
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2025-05-02historical
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2025-05-02historical
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2025-04-10$525,000 Active
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2025-04-10$525,000 New
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2025-04-09historical
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2025-04-09historical
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2025-04-02$540,000 Active
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2025-03-31historical
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2025-03-31$540,000 New
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2025-03-28historical
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2025-03-28historical
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2025-03-05price $549,900
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2025-03-05price $549,900
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2025-02-06$559,900 Active
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2025-02-06$559,900 New
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2024-12-15historical
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2024-12-15historical
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2024-11-05price $559,900
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2024-11-05price $559,900
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2024-10-17$575,000 Active
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2024-10-17$575,000 New
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2024-09-27historical
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2024-09-27historical
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2024-08-22$575,000 Active
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2024-08-22$575,000 New
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2022-08-18soldstatus $490,687 Closed
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2022-06-24status Pending
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2022-06-10historical
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2022-06-10$490,687
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2022-03-09soldstatus $2,835,000
ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot
backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.
Tax reassessment forecast GA · Resets to sale price
- Current annual tax
- $4,942 · $412/mo
- Projected year-2 tax
- $4,942 · $412/mo
- Expected delta
- $0/yr ($0/mo · 0.0%)
ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.
Climate risk First Street
- Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
- Wildfire 3/10 Moderate
- Heat 5/10 Major 7 d/yr ≥101°F today · 18 d/yr by 30 yrs out
- Wind 4/10 Moderate 9% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
- Air quality 3/10 Moderate 3 unhealthy d/yr today · 3 by 30 yrs out
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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi
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Taxation est. · year 1
- Rental income
- $39,053
- − Mortgage interest
- −$25,767
- − Property taxes
- −$4,942
- − Insurance
- −$2,300
- − Repairs & maintenance
- −$3,124
- − Management
- −$3,124
- − HOA
- −$1,200
- − Depreciation
- −$13,382
- Taxable loss
- −$14,786
- Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
- +$3,549
- After-tax cash flow
- $-2,988/yr
For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.
Schools (NCES district)
- District
- Forsyth County
- NCES district ID
- 1302220
- Math proficiency
- 62% ▼ -13.00%
- Reading proficiency
- 62% ▼ -11.00%
- Median HH income
- $89,763
- Composite
- 56.54/100
- National rank
- #1151
- State rank
- #5 of 174 in GA
Livability — Ball Ground
- Score
- 71/100
- State rank
- #80
- US rank
- #6900
Category grades
Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.
Census & demographics
- County
- Cherokee County · 289,977 people
- City population
- 19,134
- Metro
- Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta, GA
- Population (ZIP)
- 19,134
- Household income
- $110,811
- Rent vs Own
- Severe rent burden
- 93.0
Population outlook (Forsyth County) Hauer SSP2
- Today (2025)
- 294,519 people
- By 2030
- 336,546 · +14.3%
- By 2040
- 421,220 · +43.0%
- By 2050
- 502,754 · +70.7%
- By 2075
- 683,179 · +132.0%
- By 2100
- 792,174 · +169.0%
Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023
- Neighborhood character
- Predominantly White (90%)
- Race & ethnicity
- White 90% Two or more races 5% Hispanic / Latino 4% Asian 2% Black 1%
- Common ancestry
- Slovak 3% Lithuanian 2% Serbian 2%
- Foreign-born
- 4% · Canada, China, Jamaica
- Languages at home
- 96% English-only · Spanish 3%
Political lean MEDSL · Forsyth
- 2024 margin
- Solid R (+33.1) · D 32.9% · R 66.0% · Other 1.1%
- 2008→2024 swing
- +24.9pp toward D · 2008: -58.0pp · 2024: -33.1pp
- All cycles
- 2024: R+33.1 2020: R+33.2 2016: R+47.7 2012: R+62.9 2008: R+58.0
Not yet ingested
- Civics
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Market trends
- HPI YoY
- ▼ -65.64%
- Current HPI
- 282.4155
- Rent YoY
- —
- Metro
- Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta, GA
- State GDP YoY
- ▲ 2.66%
- F500 in state
- 28
Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in GA)
| Industry | F500 HQs | Revenue |
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| Paper / Packaging | 2 | $29B |
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| Retail | 1 | $160B |
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| Transportation / Logistics | 1 | $91B |
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| Airlines | 1 | $62B |
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| Consumer Goods | 1 | $47B |
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| Utilities | 1 | $25B |
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Price history
-83.8% since first listed43 events — show timeline
- 2026-04-16 Listed $460,000 FMLS
- 2026-04-16 Listed $460,000 GAMLS
- 2025-12-01 Listing Removed — GAMLS
- 2025-07-25 Price Changed $487,500 GAMLS
- 2025-07-08 Listed $490,000 GAMLS
- 2025-07-07 Listing Removed — FMLS
- 2025-07-07 Listing Removed — GAMLS
- 2025-05-27 Price Changed $490,000 FMLS
- 2025-05-27 Price Changed $490,000 GAMLS
- 2025-05-14 Price Changed $500,000 FMLS
- 2025-05-14 Price Changed $500,000 GAMLS
- 2025-05-03 Listed $515,000 FMLS
- 2025-05-02 Listing Removed — GAMLS
- 2025-05-02 Listing Removed — FMLS
- 2025-05-02 Listed $515,000 GAMLS
- 2025-04-10 Listed $525,000 GAMLS
- 2025-04-10 Listed $525,000 FMLS
- 2025-04-09 Listing Removed — GAMLS
- 2025-04-09 Listing Removed — FMLS
- 2025-04-02 Listed $540,000 FMLS
- 2025-03-31 Coming Soon — FMLS
- 2025-03-31 Listed $540,000 GAMLS
- 2025-03-28 Listing Removed — GAMLS
- 2025-03-28 Listing Removed — FMLS
- 2025-03-05 Price Changed $549,900 GAMLS
- 2025-03-05 Price Changed $549,900 FMLS
- 2025-02-06 Listed $559,900 GAMLS
- 2025-02-06 Listed $559,900 FMLS
- 2024-12-15 Listing Removed — GAMLS
- 2024-12-15 Listing Removed — FMLS
- 2024-11-05 Price Changed $559,900 GAMLS
- 2024-11-05 Price Changed $559,900 FMLS
- 2024-10-17 Listed $575,000 GAMLS
- 2024-10-17 Listed $575,000 FMLS
- 2024-09-27 Listing Removed — GAMLS
- 2024-09-27 Listing Removed — FMLS
- 2024-08-22 Listed $575,000 GAMLS
- 2024-08-22 Listed $575,000 FMLS
- 2022-08-18 Sold (MLS) $490,687 FMLS
- 2022-06-24 Pending — FMLS
- 2022-06-10 Listed $490,687 FMLS
- 2022-06-10 Listing Removed — FMLS
- 2022-03-09 Sold (Public Records) $2,835,000 Public Records
Property tax history
+10.2%/yrLatest (2025): $4,942 · +2.4% YoY. Source: county tax records.
Cash-flow waterfall
monthlySold comps — $/sqft
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