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17920 Phyllis St
B- Composite 67.7
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The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • Cash flow +30.0/30.0
  • 1% rule +10.0/10.0
  • DSCR +10.0/10.0
  • ARV discount +7.5/15.0
  • Livability +3.6/5.0
  • Rent growth +2.6/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • Schools +1.5/10.0
  • Appreciation +0.0/10.0

$64,999

17920 Phyllis St · Roseville, MI 48066
1 bd · 1.0 ba · 784 sqft · Condo · 27 Days on market
Built 1987 $360/mo HOA · 26% of rent ↓ 1% since listing

🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Listing remarks MLS

Why rent when you can own? Renovated 1 Bed 1 Bath on a quiet street in Roseville. Upper level Condo. All new appliances (fridge, dishwasher, microwave, stove, washer, & dryer). New Cabinets, Granite, flooring, Stainless. New paint. Central Air/Forced air. Carport included and plenty of guest parking. Centrally located with easy access to 94 & 696 - allowing you to get anywhere in Metro Detroit quickly. BATVAI. Agent Owned. RENTALS ARE ALLOWED BUT THERE IS A LIST AND IT IS CURRENTLY FULL W/ HOA.

Key facts

  • New cabinets
  • New appliances
  • Carport included

Tags

UPPER LEVEL CONDONEW APPLIANCESNEW CABINETSGRANITECENTRAL AIRCARPORT INCLUDED

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 1-bed/1.0-bath condo listed at $65k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $278 ($3k/yr) — positive.
  • The deal already cash-flows at list — no discount required.
  • Meets the 1% rule at list price ($1k rent vs $65k).
  • Recommended offer: $64k (1.5% below list) — sets the bar for market timing.
  • Cap rate 11.4% vs local median 5.9% in Roseville — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 72/100 on livability (#258 in MI) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: commute A+, cost of living A+, housing A+; Watch: health & safety D+, employment D, crime F.
  • Roseville Community Schools (suburban): math 11% / reading 24% proficiency, ranked #483 of 540 in MI (top 89%) — low school quality limits family demand, transient renter base, plan for 1-2y turnover; 60% free/reduced lunch — lower-income household profile, screen leases tightly.
  • Zoned schools: Roseville High School (math 12% / reading 27%, grade F, #622 of 713 statewide, top 88%, 1,216 students, 70% FRL).
  • Market conditions: Rents flat; 269 active listings in the ZIP; 32 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals at typical pace (median 17d on market — plan ~3-4 weeks tenant-placement turnaround); 1,321 units permitted in Macomb County in 2024 (86 in 5+ unit buildings).

Forward outlook

  • Local home prices are declining (-3.0%/yr); year-one equity from $449 of loan paydown is wiped out by about $2k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
  • Macomb County population projected at +9% by 2050 — modest demand growth; plan on rents tracking national, not racing it.
  • At projected returns (-3.0% appreciation + 0.4% rent growth), your $18k cash investment doubles in ~10 years — after that, you're playing with house money.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 27 days — a 2% lower offer ($64k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 20 sale attempts since 21y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
  • Current owner paid $38k; list at $65k implies a 73% gain — meaningful room to come down on a strong offer.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Watch-outs: HOA is 26% of rent.
Recommended offer $64,024 (1.5% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. What does the HOA fee cover, when was the last increase, and are there any pending special assessments or reserve-fund shortfalls?
  2. Any open or pending special assessments — roof, HVAC, plumbing, elevator, façade? What's the per-unit balance and payoff schedule, and is the seller paying it off at close or rolling it to the buyer?
  3. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  4. Schools are F-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
  5. Crime grade is F in this area — have there been break-ins, vandalism, or insurance claims at this property in the last 3 years? What carrier currently insures it and at what premium?
  6. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  7. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  8. How much new apartment / multifamily construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply (>2% of stock underway) typically softens rents 12–24 months out; light construction supports rent growth.

Investment metrics

1% rule
2.12%
Cap rate
11.42%
Cash-on-cash
18.32%
DSCR
1.82
GRM
3.9

CMA / ARV

No comps found within radius.

Projected returns pro-forma

-3.0% appreciation · 0.39% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
5.7%
Equity multiple
1.21×
Total profit
$3,885
Equity at exit
$9,692
10-year hold
IRR
11.4%
Equity multiple
1.74×
Total profit
$13,438
Equity at exit
$5,620

Cash invested: $18,200 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
62 Landlord-Friendly
State Michigan
62 Landlord-Friendly · EVEN
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
7-day pay-or-quit; mixed climate; Detroit/AA have some protections.

ZIP-level market 48066

Rents YoY
0.4%
Active inventory
269
Price-to-rent
3.9×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$1,376 medium interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$341
Tax est. 1.5%
$81 /mo · $975/yr
Insurance
$27
HOA
$360
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$289
Net cashflow
$278

Break-even live

Break-even rent $1,024
Max offer price $64,999
Occupancy floor 75%

Sensitivity live

Price -10% $323 -5% $300 +0% $278 +5% $255 +10% $233
Rent -10% $169 -5% $224 +0% $278 +5% $332 +10% $387
Rate -1.0pp $311 -0.5pp $294 base $278 +0.5pp $261 +1.0pp $244

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$16,250
Closing costs
$1,950
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Rent comps 32 comps

AddressBedsBaths SqftRent$/sqft DOM Units Dist
17639 Oakdale St Roseville, MI 2.0 1.0 812 $1,200 $1.48 46d 1 0.33mi
26221 Pinehurst St Roseville, MI 2.0 1.0 1000 $1,200 $1.20 1d 1 0.37mi
26251 Pinehurst St Unit 251d Roseville, MI 2.0 1.0 1000 $1,200 $1.20 45d 1 0.38mi
26291 Pinehurst St Unit 291c Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 800 $1,025 $1.28 45d 1 0.40mi
17455 Wildwood St Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 800 $975 $1.22 26d 1 0.63mi
17491 Allen St Unit 17491 Allen Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 900 $1,050 $1.17 6d 1 0.77mi
16944 E 11 Mile Rd Unit C2 Roseville, MI 2.0 1.0 900 $1,295 $1.44 26d 1 0.84mi
16840 E Eleven Mile Rd Unit 103 Roseville, MI 2.0 1.0 900 $1,250 $1.39 45d 1 0.88mi
16840 E 11 Mile Rd Unit 109 Roseville, MI 2.0 1.0 900 $1,400 $1.56 45d 1 0.88mi
16840 E Eleven Mile Rd Roseville, MI 2.0 1.0 900 $1,300 $1.44 26d 3 0.88mi
16840 E Eleven Mile Rd Roseville, MI 2.0 1.0 900 $1,300 $1.44 23d 3 0.88mi
16840 E Eleven Mile Rd Unit 104 Roseville, MI 2.0 1.0 900 $1,200 $1.33 45d 1 0.88mi
27415 Gratiot Ave Unit 1 Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 1050 $1,250 $1.19 19d 1 0.93mi
18308 Mesle St Unit 1032362P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,072 $4.14 6d 1 1.08mi
18340 Mesle St Unit 1032351P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,333 $4.49 1d 1 1.09mi
18635 Meier St Unit : Back Roseville, MI 2.0 1.0 900 $1,100 $1.22 26d 1 1.11mi
18355 Mesle St Unit 1032347P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,886 $5.24 0d 1 1.11mi
27850 Gratiot Ave Unit 1032354P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,573 $4.82 0d 1 1.14mi
18377 Sharon Ln Unit 1032361P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,409 $4.59 0d 1 1.15mi
18377 Sharon Ln Unit 1032363P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,323 $4.48 0d 1 1.15mi
18389 Sharon Ln Unit 1032350P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,391 $4.57 0d 1 1.15mi
18423 Sharon Ln Unit 1032349P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,210 $4.33 3d 1 1.15mi
18365 Sharon Ln Unit 1032339P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,324 $4.48 0d 1 1.15mi
18365 Sharon Ln Unit 1032367P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 796 $3,573 $4.49 16d 1 1.15mi
18431 Sharon Ln Unit 1032346P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,695 $4.98 16d 1 1.15mi
18423 Sharon Ln Unit 1032353P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,422 $4.61 0d 1 1.16mi
18443 Sharon Ln Unit 1032345P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,168 $4.27 0d 1 1.16mi
18447 Sharon Ln Unit 1032337P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,468 $4.67 18d 1 1.16mi
18459 Sharon Ln Unit 1032344P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,663 $4.94 0d 1 1.16mi
18451 Sharon Ln Unit 1032334P Roseville, MI 1.0 1.0 742 $3,196 $4.31 0d 1 1.16mi
23005 Kelly Rd Eastpointe, MI 2.0 1.0 850 $1,250 $1.47 25d 1 1.23mi
28368 Rosemont St Roseville, MI 2.0 1.0 696 $1,500 $2.16 23d 1 1.48mi

HOA detail condo

Monthly dues
$360 · $4,320/yr
Assessments
None detected in remarks — confirm with the listing agent.

Listing history 50 events

  1. 2025-07-03
    status Pending 510-char remark
    Show marketing remark (510 chars)

    Why rent when you can own? Renovated 1 Bed 1 Bath on a quiet street in Roseville. Upper level Condo. All new appliances (fridge, dishwasher, microwave, stove, washer, & dryer). New Cabinets, Granite, flooring, Stainless. New paint. Central Air/Forced air. Carport included and plenty of guest parking. Centrally located with easy access to 94 & 696 - allowing you to get anywhere in Metro Detroit quickly. BATVAI. Agent Owned. RENTALS ARE ALLOWED BUT THERE IS A LIST AND IT IS CURRENTLY FULL W/ HOA.

  2. 2025-07-03
    status Pending
    Show marketing remark (510 chars)

    Why rent when you can own? Renovated 1 Bed 1 Bath on a quiet street in Roseville. Upper level Condo. All new appliances (fridge, dishwasher, microwave, stove, washer, & dryer). New Cabinets, Granite, flooring, Stainless. New paint. Central Air/Forced air. Carport included and plenty of guest parking. Centrally located with easy access to 94 & 696 - allowing you to get anywhere in Metro Detroit quickly. BATVAI. Agent Owned. RENTALS ARE ALLOWED BUT THERE IS A LIST AND IT IS CURRENTLY FULL W/ HOA.

  3. 2025-06-05
    listed $64,999 Active
    Show marketing remark (510 chars)

    Why rent when you can own? Renovated 1 Bed 1 Bath on a quiet street in Roseville. Upper level Condo. All new appliances (fridge, dishwasher, microwave, stove, washer, & dryer). New Cabinets, Granite, flooring, Stainless. New paint. Central Air/Forced air. Carport included and plenty of guest parking. Centrally located with easy access to 94 & 696 - allowing you to get anywhere in Metro Detroit quickly. BATVAI. Agent Owned. RENTALS ARE ALLOWED BUT THERE IS A LIST AND IT IS CURRENTLY FULL W/ HOA.

  4. 2025-06-05
    listed $64,999 Active 510-char remark
    Show marketing remark (510 chars)

    Why rent when you can own? Renovated 1 Bed 1 Bath on a quiet street in Roseville. Upper level Condo. All new appliances (fridge, dishwasher, microwave, stove, washer, & dryer). New Cabinets, Granite, flooring, Stainless. New paint. Central Air/Forced air. Carport included and plenty of guest parking. Centrally located with easy access to 94 & 696 - allowing you to get anywhere in Metro Detroit quickly. BATVAI. Agent Owned. RENTALS ARE ALLOWED BUT THERE IS A LIST AND IT IS CURRENTLY FULL W/ HOA.

  5. 2025-06-04
    historical
  6. 2025-06-03
    listed $64,999 Active
  7. 2025-06-03
    listed $64,999 Active
  8. 2025-06-01
    historical
  9. 2025-06-01
    historical
  10. 2025-05-03
    price $64,999
  11. 2025-05-02
    price $64,999
  12. 2025-04-24
    price $67,999
  13. 2025-04-24
    price $67,999
  14. 2025-03-17
    listed $69,999 Active
  15. 2025-03-17
    listed $69,999 Active
  16. 2025-01-24
    historical
  17. 2025-01-24
    historical
  18. 2025-01-09
    listed $68,999 Active
  19. 2025-01-09
    listed $68,999 Active
  20. 2024-12-25
    historical
  21. 2024-12-24
    historical
  22. 2024-11-12
    listed $67,999 Active
  23. 2024-11-12
    listed $67,999 Active
  24. 2024-09-20
    soldstatus $37,500 Sold
  25. 2024-09-20
    soldstatus $37,500 Closed
  26. 2024-09-11
    price $54,900
  27. 2024-09-10
    price $54,900
  28. 2024-09-03
    historical
  29. 2024-09-03
    listed $57,900 Active
  30. 2024-09-03
    listed $57,900 Active
  31. 2024-09-03
    historical
  32. 2024-08-27
    price $57,900
  33. 2024-08-27
    price $57,900
  34. 2024-06-13
    price $59,000
  35. 2024-06-13
    price $59,000
  36. 2024-06-03
    price $64,900
  37. 2024-06-03
    price $64,900
  38. 2024-05-13
    listed $69,000 Active
  39. 2024-05-13
    listed $69,000 Active
  40. 2015-07-31
    soldstatus $24,500
  41. 2015-07-31
    soldstatus $24,500 Closed
  42. 2015-07-22
    status Pending
  43. 2015-06-16
    listed $28,000 Active
  44. 2015-06-16
    listed $28,000
  45. 2011-01-03
    soldstatus $7,000
  46. 2010-12-15
    historical
  47. 2010-11-26
    listed $11,900
  48. 2007-01-06
    historical
  49. 2007-01-06
    historical
  50. 2006-10-06
    listed $55,000

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 1/10 Low
  • 🌡 Heat 3/10 Moderate 7 d/yr ≥96°F today · 15 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 1/10 Low
  • 🫁 Air quality 4/10 Moderate 4 unhealthy d/yr today · 5 by 30 yrs out

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$16,512
− Mortgage interest
−$3,641
− Property taxes
−$975
− Insurance
−$325
− Repairs & maintenance
−$1,321
− Management
−$1,321
− HOA
−$4,320
− Depreciation
−$1,891
Taxable income
$2,718
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax owed @ 24.0%
−$652
After-tax cash flow
$2,682/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Roseville Community Schools
NCES district ID
2630210
Math proficiency
11% ▼ -8.00%
Reading proficiency
24% ▼ -7.00%
Median HH income
$41,590
Composite
14.98/100
National rank
#9363
State rank
#483 of 540 in MI

Livability — Roseville

Score
72/100
State rank
#258
US rank
#6400

Category grades

Amenities F Commute A+ Cost of living A+ Crime F Employment D Housing A+ Health & safety D+ User ratings D+

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
Roseville, MI
County
Macomb County · 638,552 people
City population
47,123
Metro
Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI
Population (ZIP)
47,123
Household income
$62,182
Rent vs Own
34.4% rent · 65.6% own
Severe rent burden
1712.0

Population outlook (Macomb County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
925,296 people
By 2030
948,226 · +2.5%
By 2040
983,961 · +6.3%
By 2050
1,010,200 · +9.2%
By 2075
1,076,222 · +16.3%
By 2100
1,077,065 · +16.4%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Predominantly White (65%)
Race & ethnicity
White 65% Black 23% Two or more races 7% Hispanic / Latino 4% Asian 2%
Common ancestry
Romanian 12% Lithuanian 4% Slovak 2%
Foreign-born
5% · Canada
Languages at home
93% English-only · Spanish 2% Russian/Polish/Slavic 1% Other Indo-European 1%

Political lean MEDSL · Macomb

2024 margin
R (+13.7) · D 42.2% · R 55.9% · Other 1.9%
2008→2024 swing
-22.3pp toward R · 2008: 8.6pp · 2024: -13.7pp
All cycles
2024: R+13.7 2020: R+8.1 2016: R+11.6 2012: D+4.0 2008: D+8.6

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▼ -232.95%
Current HPI
217.4171
Rent YoY
▲ 0.39%
Metro
Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI
State GDP YoY
▲ 1.37%
F500 in state
28

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in MI)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

-1.4% since first listed
53 events — show timeline
  • 2025-07-03 Pending MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2025-07-03 Pending REALCOMP
  • 2025-06-05 Listed $64,999 REALCOMP
  • 2025-06-05 Listed $64,999 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2025-06-04 Listing Removed MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2025-06-03 Listed $64,999 REALCOMP
  • 2025-06-03 Listed $64,999 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2025-06-01 Listing Removed MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2025-06-01 Listing Removed REALCOMP
  • 2025-05-03 Price Changed $64,999 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2025-05-02 Price Changed $64,999 REALCOMP
  • 2025-04-24 Price Changed $67,999 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2025-04-24 Price Changed $67,999 REALCOMP
  • 2025-03-17 Listed $69,999 REALCOMP
  • 2025-03-17 Listed $69,999 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2025-01-24 Listing Removed REALCOMP
  • 2025-01-24 Listing Removed MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2025-01-09 Listed $68,999 REALCOMP
  • 2025-01-09 Listed $68,999 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2024-12-25 Listing Removed REALCOMP
  • 2024-12-24 Listing Removed MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2024-11-12 Listed $67,999 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2024-11-12 Listed $67,999 REALCOMP
  • 2024-09-20 Sold (MLS) $37,500 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2024-09-20 Sold (MLS) $37,500 REALCOMP
  • 2024-09-11 Price Changed $54,900 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2024-09-10 Price Changed $54,900 REALCOMP
  • 2024-09-03 Listing Removed MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2024-09-03 Listed $57,900 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2024-09-03 Listed $57,900 REALCOMP
  • 2024-09-03 Listing Removed REALCOMP
  • 2024-08-27 Price Changed $57,900 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2024-08-27 Price Changed $57,900 REALCOMP
  • 2024-06-13 Price Changed $59,000 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2024-06-13 Price Changed $59,000 REALCOMP
  • 2024-06-03 Price Changed $64,900 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2024-06-03 Price Changed $64,900 REALCOMP
  • 2024-05-13 Listed $69,000 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2024-05-13 Listed $69,000 REALCOMP
  • 2015-07-31 Sold (MLS) $24,500 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2015-07-31 Sold (MLS) $24,500 REALCOMP
  • 2015-07-22 Pending MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2015-06-16 Listed $28,000 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2015-06-16 Listed $28,000 REALCOMP
  • 2011-01-03 Sold (MLS) $7,000 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2010-12-15 Listing Removed MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2010-11-26 Listed $11,900 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2007-01-06 Listing Removed MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2007-01-06 Listing Removed MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2006-10-06 Listed $55,000 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2006-10-06 Listed $55,000 MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2006-03-14 Listing Removed MiRealSource-MiMLS
  • 2005-09-15 Listed $65,900 MiRealSource-MiMLS

Cash-flow waterfall

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Sold comps — $/sqft

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