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802 Turtle St 5-Plex
B Composite 70.93
Why this score? — see what drove the B grade

The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • Cash flow +30.0/30.0
  • 1% rule +10.0/10.0
  • DSCR +10.0/10.0
  • Appreciation +10.0/10.0
  • Livability +3.9/5.0
  • Rent growth +2.5/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • Schools +1.8/10.0
  • ARV discount +0.3/15.0

$382,500

802 Turtle St · Syracuse, NY 13208
25 bd · None ba · 5,334 sqft · MultiFamily public records · 43 Days on market
Built 1940 0.29 ac lot $72/sqft · 16% above area Est $330k · 16% over

🖨 Deal sheet 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Multi-family units

County records classify this as Multi-Family (5+ Unit). Listing-text estimate: 5 units. confirmed

5+ unit building — per-unit beds/baths from public records are typically unavailable; the breakdown below (if shown) is an estimate from the listing text.

Listing remarks MLS

GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO OWN A CHARACTER -FILLED PROPERTY WITH MULTIPLE INCOME STREAMS. THIS 5-UNIT VICTORIAN, FULLY RENTED WITH LONG TERM TENANTS. THIS HOMES FEATURES INCLUDED SEPARATE UTILITIES, LARGE DRIVEWAY, 7 DETACHED GARAGES FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUE. SOLID INVESTMENT PROPERTY. A MUST SEE. "SOLD AS IS "

Key facts

  • Separate utilities
  • Large driveway
  • 7 detached garages

Tags

MULTIPLE INCOME STREAMS5 UNIT VICTORIANSEPARATE UTILITIESLARGE DRIVEWAY7 DETACHED GARAGES

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 5 × 2-bed/1-bath units multifamily listed at $382k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $3k ($41k/yr) — positive. Per door: $676/mo.
  • The deal already cash-flows at list — no discount required.
  • Meets the 1% rule at list price ($7k rent vs $382k).
  • Recommended offer: $371k (3.0% below list) — sets the bar for market timing.
  • Cap rate 16.9% vs local median 8.2% in Syracuse — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 77/100 on livability (#187 in NY, #2,869 nationally) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: amenities A+, commute A+, cost of living A+; Watch: schools D+, crime F, employment D-.
  • Syracuse City School District (urban): math 18% / reading 26% proficiency, ranked #590 of 590 in NY (top 100%) — low school quality limits family demand, transient renter base, plan for 1-2y turnover; 74% free/reduced lunch — lower-income household profile, screen leases tightly.
  • Market conditions: 99 active listings in the ZIP; lower-income renter base — watch delinquency; 616 units permitted in Onondaga County in 2024 (256 in 5+ unit buildings).
  • At $7,316/mo this rent would consume 196% of the median local household income ($45k/yr) (locally 1437% of renters already pay >50% of income on rent) — very limited rent-growth headroom before tenants either downsize or default.

Forward outlook

  • In year one you build about $41k of equity ($3k loan paydown + $38k appreciation (10.0% local appreciation)).
  • Onondaga County population projected to shrink 9% by 2050 — rents likely to lag national; underwrite the cash flow, not the appreciation.
  • At projected returns (10.0% appreciation + 3.0% rent growth), your $107k cash investment doubles in ~2 years — after that, you're playing with house money.
  • By year 2, paydown + projected appreciation supports a ~$66k cash-out refi (75% LTV) — recoverable capital for the next deal without selling this one.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 43 days — a 3% lower offer ($371k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 4 sale attempts since 15y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
  • Current owner paid $230k; list at $382k implies a 66% gain — meaningful room to come down on a strong offer.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Watch-outs: built in 1940 — expect roof / HVAC / electrical / plumbing capex.
Recommended offer $371,025 (3.0% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. It's been on market 43 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 3% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
  2. Can we see the unit-by-unit rent roll, current vacancy, and any below-market leases? What's the average tenancy length?
  3. What capital expenditures (roof, boiler, parking lot, exteriors) have been made in the last 5 years, and what's planned in the next 2?
  4. Built in 1940 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
  5. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  6. Schools are D-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
  7. Crime grade is F in this area — have there been break-ins, vandalism, or insurance claims at this property in the last 3 years? What carrier currently insures it and at what premium?
  8. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  9. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  10. How much new apartment / multifamily construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply (>2% of stock underway) typically softens rents 12–24 months out; light construction supports rent growth.

Investment metrics

1% rule
1.91%
Cap rate
16.90%
Cash-on-cash
37.88%
DSCR
2.69
GRM
4.4

CMA / ARV

ARV (median comp)
$329,726
List price
$382,500
Delta
16.01%
Verdict
OVERPRICED
Comps
20 within 1.0 mi

Projected returns pro-forma

10.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
53.5%
Equity multiple
4.96×
Total profit
$423,597
Equity at exit
$344,586
10-year hold
IRR
47.0%
Equity multiple
11.07×
Total profit
$1,078,021
Equity at exit
$743,113

Cash invested: $107,100 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
State New York
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
NYC rent stabilization (~1M units); 2019 HSTPA strengthened tenant rights; courts deeply backlogged.

ZIP-level market 13208

Home prices YoY
8.4%
Active inventory
99
Price-to-rent
21.8×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$7,316 high interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$2,006
Tax from tax record
$234 /mo · $2,804/yr
Insurance
$159
HOA
$0
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$1,536
Net cashflow
$3,381

Break-even live

Break-even rent $3,037
Max offer price $382,500
Occupancy floor 49%

5-unit breakdown (identical units grouped — click to expand)

UnitsBedsBathsEst. rent
Total (5 units) $7,316

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$95,625
Closing costs
$11,475
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Listing history 16 events

  1. 2026-06-05
    statusdays on market $382,500 Pending 43 DOM
  2. 2026-06-02
    days on market $382,500 Active 41 DOM
  3. 2026-06-01
    days on market $382,500 Active 40 DOM
  4. 2026-05-31
    days on market $382,500 Active 39 DOM
  5. 2026-05-30
    days on market $382,500 Active 38 DOM
  6. 2026-04-22
    listed $382,500 Active 315-char remark
    Show marketing remark (315 chars)

    GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO OWN A CHARACTER -FILLED PROPERTY WITH MULTIPLE INCOME STREAMS. THIS 5-UNIT VICTORIAN, FULLY RENTED WITH LONG TERM TENANTS. THIS HOMES FEATURES INCLUDED SEPARATE UTILITIES, LARGE DRIVEWAY, 7 DETACHED GARAGES FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUE. SOLID INVESTMENT PROPERTY. A MUST SEE. "SOLD AS IS "

  7. 2023-10-30
    soldstatus $230,000
  8. 2023-09-13
    soldstatus $230,000 Closed Sale or Rented 602-char remark
    Show marketing remark (602 chars)

    Investment opportunity offers excellent income & some long term tenants in addition to having 2 large outbuildings for add'l income. In back of property there is a detached 4 car garage plus 2 car structure for ability to either rent to a tenant or possibly someone in need for car storage or business supplies. Exterior painted in 2022, metal roof 10 yrs old, Cert of Compliance done July 2022. 4 units rented and 1 vacant for ease of showing, it's ready to go! Plenty of parking in large driveway in rear of property & large yard partially fenced. Projected monthly gross income @ $3475.

  9. 2023-08-05
    status Pending Sale 602-char remark
    Show marketing remark (602 chars)

    Investment opportunity offers excellent income & some long term tenants in addition to having 2 large outbuildings for add'l income. In back of property there is a detached 4 car garage plus 2 car structure for ability to either rent to a tenant or possibly someone in need for car storage or business supplies. Exterior painted in 2022, metal roof 10 yrs old, Cert of Compliance done July 2022. 4 units rented and 1 vacant for ease of showing, it's ready to go! Plenty of parking in large driveway in rear of property & large yard partially fenced. Projected monthly gross income @ $3475.

  10. 2023-04-07
    historical Continue to Show- Under Contract 602-char remark
    Show marketing remark (602 chars)

    Investment opportunity offers excellent income & some long term tenants in addition to having 2 large outbuildings for add'l income. In back of property there is a detached 4 car garage plus 2 car structure for ability to either rent to a tenant or possibly someone in need for car storage or business supplies. Exterior painted in 2022, metal roof 10 yrs old, Cert of Compliance done July 2022. 4 units rented and 1 vacant for ease of showing, it's ready to go! Plenty of parking in large driveway in rear of property & large yard partially fenced. Projected monthly gross income @ $3475.

  11. 2023-04-06
    listed $199,900 Active 602-char remark
    Show marketing remark (602 chars)

    Investment opportunity offers excellent income & some long term tenants in addition to having 2 large outbuildings for add'l income. In back of property there is a detached 4 car garage plus 2 car structure for ability to either rent to a tenant or possibly someone in need for car storage or business supplies. Exterior painted in 2022, metal roof 10 yrs old, Cert of Compliance done July 2022. 4 units rented and 1 vacant for ease of showing, it's ready to go! Plenty of parking in large driveway in rear of property & large yard partially fenced. Projected monthly gross income @ $3475.

  12. 2013-06-17
    historical
  13. 2013-06-06
    soldstatus $129,500
  14. 2013-06-05
    soldstatus $129,500
  15. 2013-01-18
    listed $143,000
  16. 2011-09-12
    listed $145,500

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Tax reassessment forecast NY · Partial reset (capped growth)

Current annual tax
$2,804 · $234/mo
Projected year-2 tax
$4,634 · $386/mo
Expected delta
+$1,830/yr (+$152/mo · 65.2%)

ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 1/10 Low
  • 🌡 Heat 3/10 Moderate 7 d/yr ≥95°F today · 15 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 1/10 Low 0% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
  • 🫁 Air quality 2/10 Low 0 unhealthy d/yr today · 1 by 30 yrs out

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$87,792
− Mortgage interest
−$21,426
− Property taxes
−$2,804
− Insurance
−$1,912
− Repairs & maintenance
−$7,023
− Management
−$7,023
− Depreciation
−$11,127
Taxable income
$36,475
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax owed @ 24.0%
−$8,754
After-tax cash flow
$31,814/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Syracuse City School District
NCES district ID
3628590
Math proficiency
18% ▼ -5.00%
Reading proficiency
26% ▬ 0.00%
Median HH income
$32,097
Composite
17.83/100
National rank
#9007
State rank
#590 of 590 in NY

Livability — Syracuse

Score
77/100
State rank
#187
US rank
#2869

Category grades

Amenities A+ Commute A+ Cost of living A+ Crime F Employment D- Housing A+ Health & safety A+ User ratings F

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
Syracuse, NY
County
Onondaga County · 247,257 people
City population
152,627
Metro
Syracuse, NY
Population (ZIP)
22,993
Household income
$44,712
Rent vs Own
50.8% rent · 49.2% own
Severe rent burden
1437.0

Population outlook (Onondaga County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
467,894 people
By 2030
463,381 · -1.0%
By 2040
447,697 · -4.3%
By 2050
426,399 · -8.9%
By 2075
373,661 · -20.1%
By 2100
307,967 · -34.2%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Highly diverse neighborhood (Simpson 0.70)
Race & ethnicity
White 46% Black 24% Asian 14% Two or more races 10% Hispanic / Latino 6%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Puerto Rican 4% Dominican 1%
Common ancestry
Romanian 3% Swedish 3% Italian 1%
Foreign-born
22% · Vietnam, Philippines, Canada
Languages at home
70% English-only · Spanish 6% Other Asian/Pacific 5% Vietnamese 4%

Political lean MEDSL · Onondaga

2024 margin
D (+17.3) · D 58.6% · R 41.4%
2008→2024 swing
-3.0pp toward R · 2008: 20.3pp · 2024: 17.3pp
All cycles
2024: D+17.3 2020: D+20.6 2016: D+12.8 2012: D+21.1 2008: D+20.3

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▲ 30.91%
Current HPI
399.3284
Rent YoY
Metro
Syracuse, NY
State GDP YoY
▲ 2.60%
F500 in state
92

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

+162.9% since first listed
11 events — show timeline
  • 2026-04-22 Listed $382,500 CNYIS
  • 2023-10-30 Sold (Public Records) $230,000 Public Records
  • 2023-09-13 Sold (MLS) $230,000 CNYIS
  • 2023-08-05 Pending CNYIS
  • 2023-04-07 Contingent CNYIS
  • 2023-04-06 Listed $199,900 CNYIS
  • 2013-06-17 Listing Removed CNYIS
  • 2013-06-06 Sold (Public Records) $129,500 Public Records
  • 2013-06-05 Sold (MLS) $129,500 CNYIS
  • 2013-01-18 Listed $143,000 CNYIS
  • 2011-09-12 Listed $145,500 WNYREIS

Property tax history

-0.0%/yr

Latest (2025): $2,804 · +0.0% YoY. Source: county tax records.

Cash-flow waterfall

monthly

Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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