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8703-8705 Vista De Nubes Duplex
D- Composite 38.41
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  • Cash flow +13.8/30.0
  • ARV discount +6.2/15.0
  • DSCR +4.2/10.0
  • 1% rule +3.9/10.0
  • Livability +3.3/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • Schools +2.4/10.0
  • Rent growth +2.2/5.0
  • Appreciation +0.0/10.0

$395,000

8703-8705 Vista De Nubes · Converse, TX 78109
6 bd · 6.0 ba · 3,032 sqft · MultiFamily · 63 Days on market
Built 2014 9,975 sqft lot $130/sqft · at area comps Est $384k · at est.

🖨 Deal sheet 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Multi-family units

County records classify this as Multi-Family (2-4 Unit). Listing-text estimate: 2 units. confirmed

Listing remarks MLS

Turnkey duplex opportunity in Judson Heights, recently refreshed and ready for immediate lease-up. Each unit features an open-concept layout with a spacious living area flowing into the kitchen and dining space, a convenient downstairs half bath, and all bedrooms upstairs, including a primary suite with a full bath. Both units (8703-8705) have been fully updated with fresh interior paint, new carpet, new wood decks, and new toilets, offering a clean, move-in ready feel that minimizes upfront costs for the next owner. Previously leased at $1,350 per unit, the property presents a projected gross annual income of $32,400. With estimated operating expenses of approximately $11,000-$13,000 annually (including property taxes of $9,800), the projected net operating income ranges from approximately $20,000-$22,600. Ideally located near shopping, dining, schools, Converse City Park, and Randolph AFB, with easy access to Loop 1604, this property is well-positioned for consistent rental demand. Whether you're looking to start or grow your portfolio, this is a strong opportunity with immediate leasing potential and minimal upfront work. Buyer to independently verify all income and expenses.

Key facts

  • New carpet
  • Fully updated
  • Fresh interior paint

Tags

TURNKEY DUPLEX OPPORTUNITYOPEN-CONCEPT LAYOUTPRIMARY SUITE WITH FULL BATHFULLY UPDATEDFRESH INTERIOR PAINTNEW CARPET

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 2 × 3-bed/3.5-bath units multifamily listed at $395k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $33 ($394/yr) — positive. Per door: $16/mo.
  • The deal already cash-flows at list — no discount required.
  • To meet the 1% rule (rent ≥ 1% of price), the offer needs to be $350k (11.5% below list).
  • Recommended offer: $350k (11.5% below list) — sets the bar for 1% rule.
  • Cap rate 6.4% vs local median 4.4% in Converse — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 66/100 on livability (#649 in TX) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: cost of living A+, housing A+, employment B; Watch: schools C-, crime C-, amenities F.
  • Judson ISD (suburban): math 21% / reading 33% proficiency, ranked #660 of 826 in TX (top 80%) — low school quality limits family demand, transient renter base, plan for 1-2y turnover.
  • Market conditions: Rents soft (-1.1%/yr); 1152 active listings in the ZIP; 8 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals at typical pace (median 24d on market — plan ~3-4 weeks tenant-placement turnaround); solid renter incomes; 8,308 units permitted in Bexar County in 2024 (2,506 in 5+ unit buildings).
  • At $3,497/mo this rent would consume 46% of the median local household income ($91k/yr) (locally 1732% of renters already pay >50% of income on rent) — very limited rent-growth headroom before tenants either downsize or default.

Forward outlook

  • Local home prices are declining (-3.0%/yr); year-one equity from $3k of loan paydown is wiped out by about $12k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
  • Bexar County population projected at +50% by 2050 — long-run rental-demand tailwind backs the buy-and-hold thesis.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 63 days — a 6% lower offer ($371k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 2 sale attempts since 10y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Climate carrying-cost: severe wind risk, 80% chance of damaging wind over 30y; moderate wildfire risk; extreme-heat days projected 7→23/yr by 2055 (HVAC capex compounding) — expect insurance premiums to compound above CPI over the hold.
Recommended offer $349,700 (11.5% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. It's been on market 63 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 11% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
  2. Can we see the unit-by-unit rent roll, current vacancy, and any below-market leases? What's the average tenancy length?
  3. What capital expenditures (roof, boiler, parking lot, exteriors) have been made in the last 5 years, and what's planned in the next 2?
  4. Why hasn't it sold? Are there any deal-killer items the seller is aware of (foundation, flood, title, zoning, code violations)?
  5. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  6. The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
  7. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  8. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  9. How much new apartment / multifamily construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply (>2% of stock underway) typically softens rents 12–24 months out; light construction supports rent growth.

Investment metrics

1% rule
0.89%
Cap rate
6.39%
Cash-on-cash
0.36%
DSCR
1.02
GRM
9.4

CMA / ARV

ARV (median comp)
$383,676
List price
$395,000
Delta
2.95%
Verdict
FAIR
Comps
7 within 1.0 mi
Show comp detail 2 sales within ~0.75 mi
Address Dist Beds/Ba Sqft Sold Price $/sf Match
8702 Azul Sky 0.09mi 6/5.0 2,772 (-9%) 6mo $379,999 $137 73
7218 7220 Colina Way 0.08mi 6/5.0 2,674 (-12%) 17mo $389,000 $145 58

Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.

Projected returns pro-forma

-3.0% appreciation · 0.0% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
-19.1%
Equity multiple
0.35×
Total profit
$-72,109
Equity at exit
$58,896
10-year hold
IRR
-19.6%
Equity multiple
0.10×
Total profit
$-99,486
Equity at exit
$34,152

Cash invested: $110,600 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
87 Strongly Landlord-Friendly
State Texas
87 Strongly Landlord-Friendly · R+5
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
3-day notice; statewide preemption; one of the fastest eviction climates; Travis County (Austin) slightly slower.

ZIP-level market 78109

Home prices YoY
-17.8%
Rents YoY
-1.1%
Active inventory
1152
Price-to-rent
18.8×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$3,497 high interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$2,071
Tax est. 1.5%
$494 /mo · $5,925/yr
Insurance
$165
HOA
$0
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$734
Net cashflow
$33

Break-even live

Break-even rent $3,455
Max offer price $395,000
Occupancy floor 94%

2-unit breakdown (identical units grouped — click to expand)

UnitsBedsBathsEst. rent
Total (2 units) $3,497

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$98,750
Closing costs
$11,850
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Rent comps 8 comps

AddressBedsBaths SqftRent$/sqft DOM Units Dist
6911 Waterfall Pass Converse, TX 5.0 2.5 2109 $1,840 $0.87 43d 1 0.41mi
8223 Maple Meadow Dr Converse, TX 5.0 2.5 2330 $1,595 $0.68 43d 1 0.58mi
9019 Gore Cres Converse, TX 3.0–5.0 2.0–3.5 2058 $2,960 $1.44 1d 1 0.77mi
9206 Foxing Blfs Converse, TX 5.0 2.5 2544 $2,295 $0.90 23d 1 0.85mi
6622 Aglet Aly Converse, TX 5.0 3.5 2723 $2,300 $0.84 3d 1 0.88mi
9142 Canvas Run Converse, TX 5.0 3.0 2544 $2,595 $1.02 16d 1 0.94mi
9338 Espadrille Run Converse, TX 5.0 2.5 2543 $2,197 $0.86 23d 1 0.97mi
5735 Cool River Way San Antonio, TX 3.0–5.0 2.0–3.5 2059 $2,142 $1.04 1d 5 1.21mi

Listing history 18 events

  1. 2026-06-18
    days on market $395,000 Active 63 DOM
  2. 2026-06-17
    days on market $395,000 Active 62 DOM
  3. 2026-06-16
    days on market $395,000 Active 61 DOM
  4. 2026-06-15
    days on market $395,000 Active 60 DOM
  5. 2026-06-13
    days on market $395,000 Active 58 DOM
  6. 2026-06-09
    statusdays on market $395,000 Active 54 DOM
  7. 2026-06-08
    days on market $395,000 Price Change 53 DOM
  8. 2026-06-07
    days on market $395,000 Price Change 52 DOM
  9. 2026-06-04
    days on market $395,000 Price Change 49 DOM
  10. 2026-06-03
    days on market $395,000 Price Change 48 DOM
  11. 2026-06-02
    days on market $395,000 Price Change 47 DOM
  12. 2026-06-01
    days on market $395,000 Price Change 46 DOM
  13. 2026-05-31
    days on market $395,000 Price Change 45 DOM
  14. 2026-04-16
    listed $415,000 New 1197-char remark
    Show marketing remark (1197 chars)

    Turnkey duplex opportunity in Judson Heights, recently refreshed and ready for immediate lease-up. Each unit features an open-concept layout with a spacious living area flowing into the kitchen and dining space, a convenient downstairs half bath, and all bedrooms upstairs, including a primary suite with a full bath. Both units (8703-8705) have been fully updated with fresh interior paint, new carpet, new wood decks, and new toilets, offering a clean, move-in ready feel that minimizes upfront costs for the next owner. Previously leased at $1,350 per unit, the property presents a projected gross annual income of $32,400. With estimated operating expenses of approximately $11,000-$13,000 annually (including property taxes of $9,800), the projected net operating income ranges from approximately $20,000-$22,600. Ideally located near shopping, dining, schools, Converse City Park, and Randolph AFB, with easy access to Loop 1604, this property is well-positioned for consistent rental demand. Whether you're looking to start or grow your portfolio, this is a strong opportunity with immediate leasing potential and minimal upfront work. Buyer to independently verify all income and expenses.

  15. 2016-07-15
    soldstatus Sold 517-char remark
    Show marketing remark (517 chars)

    New construction completed Oct 2014! Open floor plan. Each unit has 3 bedrooms (all upstairs), 2 full bathrooms up, & powder bath down. Granite counter tops in kitchen & bathrooms. Range, microwave, & dishwasher. Ceramic tile floors in entry, kitchen & bathrooms, carpet in living & bedrooms. Ceiling fan in living & master bdrm. 6' wood privacy fence. Close to nearby Randolph Air Force Base, shopping, restaurants, & minutes to Ft. Sam Houston. Photos are unit prior to tenant moving in.

  16. 2016-07-11
    status Pending 517-char remark
    Show marketing remark (517 chars)

    New construction completed Oct 2014! Open floor plan. Each unit has 3 bedrooms (all upstairs), 2 full bathrooms up, & powder bath down. Granite counter tops in kitchen & bathrooms. Range, microwave, & dishwasher. Ceramic tile floors in entry, kitchen & bathrooms, carpet in living & bedrooms. Ceiling fan in living & master bdrm. 6' wood privacy fence. Close to nearby Randolph Air Force Base, shopping, restaurants, & minutes to Ft. Sam Houston. Photos are unit prior to tenant moving in.

  17. 2016-06-05
    historical Active Option 517-char remark
    Show marketing remark (517 chars)

    New construction completed Oct 2014! Open floor plan. Each unit has 3 bedrooms (all upstairs), 2 full bathrooms up, & powder bath down. Granite counter tops in kitchen & bathrooms. Range, microwave, & dishwasher. Ceramic tile floors in entry, kitchen & bathrooms, carpet in living & bedrooms. Ceiling fan in living & master bdrm. 6' wood privacy fence. Close to nearby Randolph Air Force Base, shopping, restaurants, & minutes to Ft. Sam Houston. Photos are unit prior to tenant moving in.

  18. 2016-05-16
    listed $289,900 New 517-char remark
    Show marketing remark (517 chars)

    New construction completed Oct 2014! Open floor plan. Each unit has 3 bedrooms (all upstairs), 2 full bathrooms up, & powder bath down. Granite counter tops in kitchen & bathrooms. Range, microwave, & dishwasher. Ceramic tile floors in entry, kitchen & bathrooms, carpet in living & bedrooms. Ceiling fan in living & master bdrm. 6' wood privacy fence. Close to nearby Randolph Air Force Base, shopping, restaurants, & minutes to Ft. Sam Houston. Photos are unit prior to tenant moving in.

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 5/10 Major
  • 🌡 Heat 8/10 Severe 7 d/yr ≥108°F today · 23 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 8/10 Severe 80% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
  • 🫁 Air quality 1/10 Low 0 unhealthy d/yr today · 0 by 30 yrs out

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$41,964
− Mortgage interest
−$22,126
− Property taxes
−$5,925
− Insurance
−$1,975
− Repairs & maintenance
−$3,357
− Management
−$3,357
− Depreciation
−$11,491
Taxable loss
−$6,267
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
+$1,504
After-tax cash flow
$1,899/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Judson ISD
NCES district ID
4824990
Math proficiency
21% ▼ -21.00%
Reading proficiency
33% ▼ -7.00%
Median HH income
$57,542
Composite
24.39/100
National rank
#7689
State rank
#660 of 826 in TX

Livability — Converse

Score
66/100
State rank
#649
US rank
#12250

Category grades

Amenities F Commute F Cost of living A+ Crime C- Employment B Housing A+ Health & safety F User ratings C

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
Converse, TX
County
Bexar County · 1,990,555 people
City population
63,067
Metro
San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX
Population (ZIP)
63,067
Household income
$91,320
Rent vs Own
25.1% rent · 74.9% own
Severe rent burden
1732.0

Population outlook (Bexar County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
2,336,851 people
By 2030
2,560,728 · +9.6%
By 2040
3,020,569 · +29.3%
By 2050
3,493,522 · +49.5%
By 2075
4,668,459 · +99.8%
By 2100
5,533,242 · +136.8%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Diverse neighborhood (Simpson 0.69)
Race & ethnicity
Hispanic / Latino 44% White 27% Two or more races 21% Black 21% Asian 3%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Mexican 29% Puerto Rican 4%
Common ancestry
Lithuanian 1% Romanian 1% Italian 1%
Foreign-born
11% · Canada, Vietnam, South Korea
Languages at home
71% English-only · Spanish 23% Tagalog/Filipino 1% Other Asian/Pacific 1%

Political lean MEDSL · Bexar

2024 margin
Lean D (+9.8) · D 54.3% · R 44.6% · Other 1.1%
2008→2024 swing
+4.2pp toward D · 2008: 5.6pp · 2024: 9.8pp
All cycles
2024: D+9.8 2020: D+18.2 2016: D+13.5 2012: D+4.6 2008: D+5.6

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▼ -51.02%
Current HPI
236.4923
Rent YoY
▼ -1.08%
Metro
San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX
State GDP YoY
▲ 3.95%
F500 in state
110

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in TX)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

+43.2% since first listed
5 events — show timeline
  • 2026-04-16 Listed $415,000 LERA
  • 2016-07-15 Sold (MLS) LERA
  • 2016-07-11 Pending LERA
  • 2016-06-05 Contingent LERA
  • 2016-05-16 Listed $289,900 LERA

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Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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