1309 Thorn St · Utica, NY
Flood risk 1/10 · Minimal
- FEMA flood zone
- X (unshaded)
- Chance of flooding over 30 yrs
- 0.0%
- Est. flood insurance / yr
- $473 – $860
Fire risk 1/10 · Minimal
- Est. fire insurance / yr
- $691 – $1,283
Heat risk 3/10 · Minor
- Hot days now (above 95°F)
- 7 days/yr
- Hot days in 30 yrs
- 16 days/yr
Wind risk 2/10 · Minimal
- Chance of severe wind over 30 yrs
- 1.0%
Air-quality risk 2/10 · Minimal
- Unhealthy air days now
- 0 days/yr
- Unhealthy air days in 30 yrs
- 2 days/yr
Risk factors via First Street. Map © Google.
Why this score? — see what drove the D+ grade
The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).
- Cash flow +23.6/30.0
- DSCR +7.6/10.0
- 1% rule +5.6/10.0
- Livability +4.0/5.0
- Schools +2.9/10.0
- Rent growth +2.5/5.0
- Condition / age +2.5/5.0
- ARV discount +0.8/15.0
- Appreciation +0.0/10.0
$149,900
🖨 Deal sheet 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence
Key facts
- 4,000 sq ft lot
- Built 1920
- Listed 33 days
Neighborhood map
What this means for you Summary
Snapshot
- This is a 3-bed/1.0-bath single-family listed at $150k.
Deal economics
- At list price, monthly cash flow is $283 ($3k/yr) — positive.
- The deal already cash-flows at list — no discount required.
- Meets the 1% rule at list price ($2k rent vs $150k).
- Recommended offer: $145k (3.0% below list) — sets the bar for market timing.
Location & tenants
- Location reads 80/100 on livability (#104 in NY, #1,589 nationally) — a professional / high-income tenant draw. Strengths: commute A+, cost of living A+, housing A+; Watch: employment D, schools D-, crime F.
- Utica City School District (urban): math 33% / reading 38% proficiency, ranked #562 of 590 in NY (top 95%) — families likely to look elsewhere, expect single-tenant / working-renter base with shorter leases; 71% free/reduced lunch — lower-income household profile, screen leases tightly.
- Market conditions: 150 active listings in the ZIP; 4 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals lingering (median 44d on market — plan ~5-8 weeks vacancy on turnover, expect pricing pressure); 100% of comp listings sitting > 30 days — soft ceiling on asking rent; 204 units permitted in Oneida County in 2024 (68 in 5+ unit buildings).
- This rent runs 33% of the median local income ($58k/yr) — at the standard rent-burdened threshold; future hikes will face affordability resistance.
Forward outlook
- Local home prices are declining (-3.0%/yr); year-one equity from $1k of loan paydown is wiped out by about $4k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
- Oneida County population projected at -12% by 2050 — secular population decline; favor cash flow + early exit over multi-decade hold.
Negotiation context
- It's been on market 33 days — a 3% lower offer ($145k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
- 4 sale attempts since 31y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
- Current owner paid $75k; list at $150k implies a 100% gain — meaningful room to come down on a strong offer.
Risks & watch-outs
- Watch-outs: built in 1920 — expect roof / HVAC / electrical / plumbing capex.
Questions for the listing agent
- It's been on market 33 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 3% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
- Built in 1920 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
- Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
- Schools are D-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
- Crime grade is F in this area — have there been break-ins, vandalism, or insurance claims at this property in the last 3 years? What carrier currently insures it and at what premium?
- The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
- What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
- What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
- How much new for-sale + rental construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply typically softens prices + rents 12–24 months out; constrained supply supports both.
Investment metrics
- 1% rule
- 1.06% ✓
- Cap rate
- 8.56%
- Cash-on-cash
- 8.09%
- DSCR
- 1.36
- GRM
- 7.9
CMA / ARV
- ARV (on-the-fly)
- $130,560
- Comps found
- 12
Show comp detail 12 sales within ~0.75 mi
| Address | Dist | Beds/Ba | Sqft | Sold | Price | $/sf | Match |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1317 Butternut St | 0.07mi | 3/1.0 | 912 (-5%) | 7mo | $183,000 | $201 | 83 |
| 1222 Oswego St | 0.15mi | 3/1.0 | 1,032 (+8%) | 3mo | $125,500 | $122 | 78 |
| 1570 Delaware Ave | 0.03mi | 3/2.0 | 960 (0%) | 20mo | $207,000 | $216 | 78 |
| 1212 Oak St | 0.20mi | 2/1.0 (-1) | 973 (+1%) | 6mo | $26,000 | $27 | 78 |
| 1206 Oak St | 0.21mi | 3/1.0 | 966 (+1%) | 16mo | $143,100 | $148 | 76 |
| 1325 Oswego St | 0.15mi | 3/1.5 | 1,008 (+5%) | 15mo | $137,000 | $136 | 70 |
| 1302 Noyes St | 0.29mi | 3/1.0 | 1,026 (+7%) | 14mo | $138,500 | $135 | 63 |
| 1201 Maple St | 0.25mi | 4/2.0 (+1) | 988 (+3%) | 17mo | $75,000 | $76 | 60 |
| 1413 Old Burrstone Rd | 0.42mi | 3/1.5 | 1,080 (+12%) | 1mo | $236,900 | $219 | 57 |
| 920 Arnold Ave | 0.64mi | 2/1.0 (-1) | 1,040 (+8%) | 10mo | $180,000 | $173 | 43 |
| 1013 Brayton Park Pl | 0.65mi | 3/1.0 | 1,074 (+12%) | 16mo | $127,000 | $118 | 37 |
| 1028 Churchill Ave | 0.64mi | 3/1.5 | 1,066 (+11%) | 21mo | $135,000 | $127 | 32 |
Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.
Projected returns pro-forma
-3.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon
- IRR
- -4.0%
- Equity multiple
- 0.85×
- Total profit
- $-6,276
- Equity at exit
- $22,351
- IRR
- 5.7%
- Equity multiple
- 1.42×
- Total profit
- $17,682
- Equity at exit
- $12,961
Cash invested: $41,972 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.
Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology
- Overall (STATE)
- 15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
- State New York
- 15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
- County
- — inherits STATE
- City
- — inherits STATE
ZIP-level market 13502
- Home prices YoY
- -12.1%
- Active inventory
- 150
- Price-to-rent
- 7.9×
Monthly cashflow live
- Estimated rent
- $1,584 medium interval (Pro) →
- Mortgage (P&I)
- −$786
- Tax from tax record
- −$119 /mo · $1,433/yr
- Insurance
- −$62
- HOA
- −$0
- Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
- −$333
- Net cashflow
- $283
Break-even live
UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt
Financing live
Cash to close
- Down payment
- $37,475
- Closing costs
- $4,497
- Reserves months
- —
- Total cash needed
- —
Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live
Conventional
25% down · 7.5% · 30yr
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
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Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.
DSCR
20% down · 8.5% · 30yr
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
- —
No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.
Hard money
10% down · 12.0% · 12mo
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
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Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.
Rent comps 4 comps
| Address | Beds | Baths | Sqft | Rent | $/sqft | DOM | Units | Dist |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1503 Fox Pl Utica, NY | 3.0 | 1.0 | 1119 | $2,000 | $1.79 | 43d | 1 | 0.55mi |
| 11 Noyes St Unit 4 Utica, NY | 2.0 | 1.0 | 1000 | $1,125 | $1.12 | 43d | 1 | 0.64mi |
| 1224 Whitesboro St Unit 1 Utica, NY | 3.0 | 1.0 | 1100 | $1,125 | $1.02 | 43d | 1 | 0.79mi |
| 4 1st St Yorkville, NY | 3.0 | 1.0 | 888 | $2,100 | $2.36 | 43d | 1 | 1.25mi |
Listing history 9 events
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2026-04-28status Pending
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2026-03-26$149,900 Active
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2025-09-25price $104,500
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2025-06-13$105,000 Active
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2025-05-29historical
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2025-01-31soldstatus $75,000
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2024-12-04$119,000 Active
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1996-05-05historical
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1995-05-05$44,900
ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot
backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.
Tax reassessment forecast NY · Partial reset (capped growth)
- Current annual tax
- $1,433 · $119/mo
- Projected year-2 tax
- $1,983 · $165/mo
- Expected delta
- +$550/yr (+$46/mo · 38.4%)
ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.
Climate risk First Street
- Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
- Wildfire 1/10 Low
- Heat 3/10 Moderate 7 d/yr ≥95°F today · 16 d/yr by 30 yrs out
- Wind 2/10 Low 100% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
- Air quality 2/10 Low 0 unhealthy d/yr today · 2 by 30 yrs out
Nearby sold comps map
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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi
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Taxation est. · year 1
- Rental income
- $19,004
- − Mortgage interest
- −$8,397
- − Property taxes
- −$1,433
- − Insurance
- −$750
- − Repairs & maintenance
- −$1,520
- − Management
- −$1,520
- − Depreciation
- −$4,361
- Taxable income
- $1,023
- Est. tax owed @ 24.0%
- −$246
- After-tax cash flow
- $3,152/yr
For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.
Schools (NCES district)
- District
- Utica City School District
- NCES district ID
- 3629370
- Math proficiency
- 33% ▼ -7.00%
- Reading proficiency
- 38% ▲ 2.00%
- Median HH income
- $31,834
- Composite
- 29.01/100
- National rank
- #6613
- State rank
- #562 of 590 in NY
Livability — Utica
- Score
- 80/100
- State rank
- #104
- US rank
- #1589
Category grades
Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.
Census & demographics
- Census place
- Utica, NY
- County
- Oneida County · 89,710 people
- City population
- 72,968
- Metro
- Utica-Rome, NY
- Population (ZIP)
- 34,037
- Household income
- $57,835
- Rent vs Own
- Severe rent burden
- 1604.0
Population outlook (Oneida County) Hauer SSP2
- Today (2025)
- 225,223 people
- By 2030
- 220,384 · -2.1%
- By 2040
- 209,071 · -7.2%
- By 2050
- 197,920 · -12.1%
- By 2075
- 175,541 · -22.1%
- By 2100
- 148,491 · -34.1%
Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023
- Neighborhood character
- Predominantly White (71%)
- Race & ethnicity
- White 71% Hispanic / Latino 11% Black 9% Two or more races 7% Asian 5%
- Hispanic origin (detail)
- Mexican 2% Puerto Rican 5% Dominican 2%
- Common ancestry
- Romanian 11% Lithuanian 3% American 2%
- Foreign-born
- 12% · Canada, Philippines, China
- Languages at home
- 81% English-only · Spanish 7% Russian/Polish/Slavic 4% Other Asian/Pacific 3%
Political lean MEDSL · Oneida
- 2024 margin
- Strong R (+21.3) · D 39.4% · R 60.6%
- 2008→2024 swing
- -15.2pp toward R · 2008: -6.1pp · 2024: -21.3pp
- All cycles
- 2024: R+21.3 2020: R+15.5 2016: R+21.1 2012: R+5.3 2008: R+6.1
Not yet ingested
- Civics
- —
Market trends
- HPI YoY
- ▼ -50.76%
- Current HPI
- 368.3955
- Rent YoY
- —
- Metro
- Utica-Rome, NY
- State GDP YoY
- ▲ 2.60%
- F500 in state
- 92
Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)
| Industry | F500 HQs | Revenue |
|---|---|---|
| Financial Services | 10 | $950B |
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| Consumer Goods | 9 | $162B |
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| Insurance | 4 | $225B |
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| Telecommunications | 2 | $144B |
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| Pharmaceuticals | 2 | $112B |
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| Media / Entertainment | 2 | $69B |
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Price history
+233.9% since first listed9 events — show timeline
- 2026-04-28 Pending — CNYIS
- 2026-03-26 Listed $149,900 CNYIS
- 2025-09-25 Price Changed $104,500 CNYIS
- 2025-06-13 Listed $105,000 CNYIS
- 2025-05-29 Listing Removed — CNYIS
- 2025-01-31 Sold (Public Records) $75,000 Public Records
- 2024-12-04 Listed $119,000 CNYIS
- 1996-05-05 Listing Removed — CNYIS
- 1995-05-05 Listed $44,900 CNYIS
Property tax history
+2.0%/yrLatest (2025): $1,433 · +10.5% YoY. Source: county tax records.
Cash-flow waterfall
monthlySold comps — $/sqft
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