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1309 Thorn St
D+ Composite 49.52
Why this score? — see what drove the D+ grade

The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • Cash flow +23.6/30.0
  • DSCR +7.6/10.0
  • 1% rule +5.6/10.0
  • Livability +4.0/5.0
  • Schools +2.9/10.0
  • Rent growth +2.5/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • ARV discount +0.8/15.0
  • Appreciation +0.0/10.0

$149,900

1309 Thorn St · Utica, NY 13502
3 bd · 1.0 ba · 960 sqft · SingleFamily public records · 33 Days on market
Built 1920 4,000 sqft lot Est $131k · 15% over

🖨 Deal sheet 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Key facts

  • 4,000 sq ft lot
  • Built 1920
  • Listed 33 days

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 3-bed/1.0-bath single-family listed at $150k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $283 ($3k/yr) — positive.
  • The deal already cash-flows at list — no discount required.
  • Meets the 1% rule at list price ($2k rent vs $150k).
  • Recommended offer: $145k (3.0% below list) — sets the bar for market timing.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 80/100 on livability (#104 in NY, #1,589 nationally) — a professional / high-income tenant draw. Strengths: commute A+, cost of living A+, housing A+; Watch: employment D, schools D-, crime F.
  • Utica City School District (urban): math 33% / reading 38% proficiency, ranked #562 of 590 in NY (top 95%) — families likely to look elsewhere, expect single-tenant / working-renter base with shorter leases; 71% free/reduced lunch — lower-income household profile, screen leases tightly.
  • Market conditions: 150 active listings in the ZIP; 4 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals lingering (median 44d on market — plan ~5-8 weeks vacancy on turnover, expect pricing pressure); 100% of comp listings sitting > 30 days — soft ceiling on asking rent; 204 units permitted in Oneida County in 2024 (68 in 5+ unit buildings).
  • This rent runs 33% of the median local income ($58k/yr) — at the standard rent-burdened threshold; future hikes will face affordability resistance.

Forward outlook

  • Local home prices are declining (-3.0%/yr); year-one equity from $1k of loan paydown is wiped out by about $4k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
  • Oneida County population projected at -12% by 2050 — secular population decline; favor cash flow + early exit over multi-decade hold.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 33 days — a 3% lower offer ($145k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 4 sale attempts since 31y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
  • Current owner paid $75k; list at $150k implies a 100% gain — meaningful room to come down on a strong offer.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Watch-outs: built in 1920 — expect roof / HVAC / electrical / plumbing capex.
Recommended offer $145,403 (3.0% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. It's been on market 33 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 3% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
  2. Built in 1920 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
  3. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  4. Schools are D-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
  5. Crime grade is F in this area — have there been break-ins, vandalism, or insurance claims at this property in the last 3 years? What carrier currently insures it and at what premium?
  6. The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
  7. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  8. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  9. How much new for-sale + rental construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply typically softens prices + rents 12–24 months out; constrained supply supports both.

Investment metrics

1% rule
1.06%
Cap rate
8.56%
Cash-on-cash
8.09%
DSCR
1.36
GRM
7.9

CMA / ARV

ARV (on-the-fly)
$130,560
Comps found
12
Show comp detail 12 sales within ~0.75 mi
Address Dist Beds/Ba Sqft Sold Price $/sf Match
1317 Butternut St 0.07mi 3/1.0 912 (-5%) 7mo $183,000 $201 83
1222 Oswego St 0.15mi 3/1.0 1,032 (+8%) 3mo $125,500 $122 78
1570 Delaware Ave 0.03mi 3/2.0 960 (0%) 20mo $207,000 $216 78
1212 Oak St 0.20mi 2/1.0 (-1) 973 (+1%) 6mo $26,000 $27 78
1206 Oak St 0.21mi 3/1.0 966 (+1%) 16mo $143,100 $148 76
1325 Oswego St 0.15mi 3/1.5 1,008 (+5%) 15mo $137,000 $136 70
1302 Noyes St 0.29mi 3/1.0 1,026 (+7%) 14mo $138,500 $135 63
1201 Maple St 0.25mi 4/2.0 (+1) 988 (+3%) 17mo $75,000 $76 60
1413 Old Burrstone Rd 0.42mi 3/1.5 1,080 (+12%) 1mo $236,900 $219 57
920 Arnold Ave 0.64mi 2/1.0 (-1) 1,040 (+8%) 10mo $180,000 $173 43
1013 Brayton Park Pl 0.65mi 3/1.0 1,074 (+12%) 16mo $127,000 $118 37
1028 Churchill Ave 0.64mi 3/1.5 1,066 (+11%) 21mo $135,000 $127 32

Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.

Projected returns pro-forma

-3.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
-4.0%
Equity multiple
0.85×
Total profit
$-6,276
Equity at exit
$22,351
10-year hold
IRR
5.7%
Equity multiple
1.42×
Total profit
$17,682
Equity at exit
$12,961

Cash invested: $41,972 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
State New York
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
NYC rent stabilization (~1M units); 2019 HSTPA strengthened tenant rights; courts deeply backlogged.

ZIP-level market 13502

Home prices YoY
-12.1%
Active inventory
150
Price-to-rent
7.9×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$1,584 medium interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$786
Tax from tax record
$119 /mo · $1,433/yr
Insurance
$62
HOA
$0
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$333
Net cashflow
$283

Break-even live

Break-even rent $1,225
Max offer price $149,900
Occupancy floor 77%

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$37,475
Closing costs
$4,497
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Rent comps 4 comps

AddressBedsBaths SqftRent$/sqft DOM Units Dist
1503 Fox Pl Utica, NY 3.0 1.0 1119 $2,000 $1.79 43d 1 0.55mi
11 Noyes St Unit 4 Utica, NY 2.0 1.0 1000 $1,125 $1.12 43d 1 0.64mi
1224 Whitesboro St Unit 1 Utica, NY 3.0 1.0 1100 $1,125 $1.02 43d 1 0.79mi
4 1st St Yorkville, NY 3.0 1.0 888 $2,100 $2.36 43d 1 1.25mi

Listing history 9 events

  1. 2026-04-28
    status Pending
  2. 2026-03-26
    listed $149,900 Active
  3. 2025-09-25
    price $104,500
  4. 2025-06-13
    listed $105,000 Active
  5. 2025-05-29
    historical
  6. 2025-01-31
    soldstatus $75,000
  7. 2024-12-04
    listed $119,000 Active
  8. 1996-05-05
    historical
  9. 1995-05-05
    listed $44,900

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Tax reassessment forecast NY · Partial reset (capped growth)

Current annual tax
$1,433 · $119/mo
Projected year-2 tax
$1,983 · $165/mo
Expected delta
+$550/yr (+$46/mo · 38.4%)

ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 1/10 Low
  • 🌡 Heat 3/10 Moderate 7 d/yr ≥95°F today · 16 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 2/10 Low 100% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
  • 🫁 Air quality 2/10 Low 0 unhealthy d/yr today · 2 by 30 yrs out

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$19,004
− Mortgage interest
−$8,397
− Property taxes
−$1,433
− Insurance
−$750
− Repairs & maintenance
−$1,520
− Management
−$1,520
− Depreciation
−$4,361
Taxable income
$1,023
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax owed @ 24.0%
−$246
After-tax cash flow
$3,152/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Utica City School District
NCES district ID
3629370
Math proficiency
33% ▼ -7.00%
Reading proficiency
38% ▲ 2.00%
Median HH income
$31,834
Composite
29.01/100
National rank
#6613
State rank
#562 of 590 in NY

Livability — Utica

Score
80/100
State rank
#104
US rank
#1589

Category grades

Amenities A Commute A+ Cost of living A+ Crime F Employment D Housing A+ Health & safety A+ User ratings C-

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
Utica, NY
County
Oneida County · 89,710 people
City population
72,968
Metro
Utica-Rome, NY
Population (ZIP)
34,037
Household income
$57,835
Rent vs Own
40.8% rent · 59.2% own
Severe rent burden
1604.0

Population outlook (Oneida County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
225,223 people
By 2030
220,384 · -2.1%
By 2040
209,071 · -7.2%
By 2050
197,920 · -12.1%
By 2075
175,541 · -22.1%
By 2100
148,491 · -34.1%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Predominantly White (71%)
Race & ethnicity
White 71% Hispanic / Latino 11% Black 9% Two or more races 7% Asian 5%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Mexican 2% Puerto Rican 5% Dominican 2%
Common ancestry
Romanian 11% Lithuanian 3% American 2%
Foreign-born
12% · Canada, Philippines, China
Languages at home
81% English-only · Spanish 7% Russian/Polish/Slavic 4% Other Asian/Pacific 3%

Political lean MEDSL · Oneida

2024 margin
Strong R (+21.3) · D 39.4% · R 60.6%
2008→2024 swing
-15.2pp toward R · 2008: -6.1pp · 2024: -21.3pp
All cycles
2024: R+21.3 2020: R+15.5 2016: R+21.1 2012: R+5.3 2008: R+6.1

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▼ -50.76%
Current HPI
368.3955
Rent YoY
Metro
Utica-Rome, NY
State GDP YoY
▲ 2.60%
F500 in state
92

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

+233.9% since first listed
9 events — show timeline
  • 2026-04-28 Pending CNYIS
  • 2026-03-26 Listed $149,900 CNYIS
  • 2025-09-25 Price Changed $104,500 CNYIS
  • 2025-06-13 Listed $105,000 CNYIS
  • 2025-05-29 Listing Removed CNYIS
  • 2025-01-31 Sold (Public Records) $75,000 Public Records
  • 2024-12-04 Listed $119,000 CNYIS
  • 1996-05-05 Listing Removed CNYIS
  • 1995-05-05 Listed $44,900 CNYIS

Property tax history

+2.0%/yr

Latest (2025): $1,433 · +10.5% YoY. Source: county tax records.

Cash-flow waterfall

monthly

Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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