13 Creamery · Livingston Manor, NY
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Why this score? — see what drove the D+ grade
The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).
- ARV discount +15.0/15.0
- Appreciation +10.0/10.0
- Cash flow +7.8/30.0
- Schools +4.5/10.0
- Rent growth +2.5/5.0
- Livability +2.5/5.0
- Condition / age +2.5/5.0
- 1% rule +2.0/10.0
- DSCR +1.9/10.0
$280,000
🖨 Deal sheet 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence
Listing remarks MLS
PRICE REDUCED 12/4/25 to 299900..LOCATION LOCATION. .This 2,200 Sq. ft. 3 bedroom one bathroom house is in the Hamlet of Livingston Manor.this house has municipal water and sewer... walk to all of the town amenities.. great weekend house/air b n b or live here for all the 4 seasons in the Catskill Mountains.. ..Low taxes..12'ceilings with a large family room with a huge dry bar..HIGH SPEED INTERNET. .over sized bathroom ..large bedrooms. .large eat in kitchen..the Cattail Brook runs along a section at the back of the property yearround..pull up a chair and buy a firepit and relax by the babbling brook..and an added bonus this property is flat and is zoned commerical ..nearby is Bethel woods/Casino/water park and lots of shopping in Liberty or Monticello..2 hours to NYC..come and take a look..all offers presented
Key facts
- Cattail brook
- High speed internet
- Built 2016
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What this means for you Summary
Snapshot
- This is a 3-bed/1.0-bath single-family listed at $280k.
Deal economics
- At list price, monthly cash flow is $-305 ($-4k/yr) — negative.
- To cash-flow at today's rent, offer at most $226k (19.2% below list).
- To meet the 1% rule (rent ≥ 1% of price), the offer needs to be $196k (30.1% below list).
- Recommended offer: $196k (30.1% below list) — sets the bar for 1% rule.
- Cap rate 5.0% vs local median 3.0% in Livingston Manor — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.
Location & tenants
- Location reads 50/100 on livability (#1,173 in NY) — a working-class tenant base; expect higher turnover. Strengths: crime A; Watch: schools D, amenities F, commute F.
- Livingston Manor Central School District (rural): math 55% / reading 45% proficiency, ranked #456 of 755 in NY (top 60%) — acceptable for families but not a draw, mixed tenant base, ~2y average lease.
- Market conditions: 81 active listings in the ZIP; 739 units permitted in Sullivan County in 2024 (5 in 5+ unit buildings).
Forward outlook
- In year one you build about $30k of equity ($2k loan paydown + $28k appreciation (10.0% local appreciation)).
- Sullivan County population projected at -24% by 2050 — secular population decline; favor cash flow + early exit over multi-decade hold.
- By year 2, paydown + projected appreciation supports a ~$48k cash-out refi (75% LTV) — recoverable capital for the next deal without selling this one.
Negotiation context
- It's been on market 259 days — a 12% lower offer ($246k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
- 5 sale attempts since 6y ago; this cycle's ask has dropped $69k (20%) from the opening price — seller is motivated, your offer sets the floor, not the list.
Questions for the listing agent
- What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
- It's been on market 259 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 30% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
- Why hasn't it sold? Are there any deal-killer items the seller is aware of (foundation, flood, title, zoning, code violations)?
- Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
- Schools are D-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
- The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
- What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
- What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
- How much new for-sale + rental construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply typically softens prices + rents 12–24 months out; constrained supply supports both.
Investment metrics
- 1% rule
- 0.70% ✗
- Cap rate
- 4.99%
- Cash-on-cash
- -4.67%
- DSCR
- 0.79
- GRM
- 11.9
CMA / ARV
- ARV (median comp)
- $425,553
- List price
- $280,000
- Delta
- -34.20%
- Verdict
- UNDERPRICED
- Comps
- 16 within 1.0 mi
Show comp detail 4 sales within ~0.75 mi
| Address | Dist | Beds/Ba | Sqft | Sold | Price | $/sf | Match |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 14 Dubois St | 0.16mi | 3/2.5 | 1,986 (-10%) | 1mo | $475,000 | $239 | 69 |
| 17 Hazel Spur Rd | 0.17mi | 4/3.0 (+1) | 2,346 (+7%) | 11mo | $489,000 | $208 | 59 |
| 534 Old Route 17 | 0.51mi | 3/2.5 | 1,900 (-14%) | 6mo | $372,000 | $196 | 42 |
| 16 Hazel Rd | 0.62mi | 3/2.5 | 1,932 (-12%) | 12mo | $465,000 | $241 | 35 |
Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.
Projected returns pro-forma
10.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon
- IRR
- 21.0%
- Equity multiple
- 2.70×
- Total profit
- $133,059
- Equity at exit
- $252,246
- IRR
- 19.0%
- Equity multiple
- 6.19×
- Total profit
- $407,060
- Equity at exit
- $543,978
Cash invested: $78,400 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.
Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology
- Overall (STATE)
- 15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
- State New York
- 15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
- County
- — inherits STATE
- City
- — inherits STATE
ZIP-level market 12758
- Home prices YoY
- 15.4%
- Active inventory
- 81
- Price-to-rent
- 11.9×
Monthly cashflow live
- Estimated rent
- $1,957 medium interval (Pro) →
- Mortgage (P&I)
- −$1,468
- Tax from tax record
- −$266 /mo · $3,193/yr
- Insurance
- −$117
- HOA
- −$0
- Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
- −$411
- Net cashflow
- $-305
Break-even live
UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt
Financing live
Cash to close
- Down payment
- $70,000
- Closing costs
- $8,400
- Reserves months
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- Total cash needed
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Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live
Conventional
25% down · 7.5% · 30yr
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- Eligible?
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Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.
DSCR
20% down · 8.5% · 30yr
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- DSCR
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- Eligible?
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No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.
Hard money
10% down · 12.0% · 12mo
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- Eligible?
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Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.
Listing history 24 events
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2026-06-18days on market $280,000 Active 259 DOM
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2026-06-17days on market $280,000 Active 258 DOM
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2026-06-16days on market $280,000 Active 257 DOM
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2026-06-15days on market $280,000 Active 256 DOM
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2026-06-13days on market $280,000 Active 254 DOM
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2026-06-12days on market $280,000 Active 253 DOM
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2026-06-09days on market $280,000 Active 250 DOM
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2026-06-08days on market $280,000 Active 249 DOM
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2026-06-07days on market $280,000 Active 248 DOM
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2026-06-07days on market $280,000 Active 247 DOM
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2026-06-04days on market $280,000 Active 244 DOM
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2026-06-02days on market $280,000 Active 243 DOM
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2026-06-01days on market $280,000 Active 242 DOM
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2026-05-31days on market $280,000 Active 241 DOM
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2025-12-05price $299,900 824-char remark
Show marketing remark (824 chars)
PRICE REDUCED 12/4/25 to 299900..LOCATION LOCATION. .This 2,200 Sq. ft. 3 bedroom one bathroom house is in the Hamlet of Livingston Manor.this house has municipal water and sewer... walk to all of the town amenities.. great weekend house/air b n b or live here for all the 4 seasons in the Catskill Mountains.. ..Low taxes..12'ceilings with a large family room with a huge dry bar..HIGH SPEED INTERNET. .over sized bathroom ..large bedrooms. .large eat in kitchen..the Cattail Brook runs along a section at the back of the property yearround..pull up a chair and buy a firepit and relax by the babbling brook..and an added bonus this property is flat and is zoned commerical ..nearby is Bethel woods/Casino/water park and lots of shopping in Liberty or Monticello..2 hours to NYC..come and take a look..all offers presented
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2025-10-26price $329,000 824-char remark
Show marketing remark (824 chars)
PRICE REDUCED 12/4/25 to 299900..LOCATION LOCATION. .This 2,200 Sq. ft. 3 bedroom one bathroom house is in the Hamlet of Livingston Manor.this house has municipal water and sewer... walk to all of the town amenities.. great weekend house/air b n b or live here for all the 4 seasons in the Catskill Mountains.. ..Low taxes..12'ceilings with a large family room with a huge dry bar..HIGH SPEED INTERNET. .over sized bathroom ..large bedrooms. .large eat in kitchen..the Cattail Brook runs along a section at the back of the property yearround..pull up a chair and buy a firepit and relax by the babbling brook..and an added bonus this property is flat and is zoned commerical ..nearby is Bethel woods/Casino/water park and lots of shopping in Liberty or Monticello..2 hours to NYC..come and take a look..all offers presented
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2025-10-02$349,000 Active 824-char remark
Show marketing remark (824 chars)
PRICE REDUCED 12/4/25 to 299900..LOCATION LOCATION. .This 2,200 Sq. ft. 3 bedroom one bathroom house is in the Hamlet of Livingston Manor.this house has municipal water and sewer... walk to all of the town amenities.. great weekend house/air b n b or live here for all the 4 seasons in the Catskill Mountains.. ..Low taxes..12'ceilings with a large family room with a huge dry bar..HIGH SPEED INTERNET. .over sized bathroom ..large bedrooms. .large eat in kitchen..the Cattail Brook runs along a section at the back of the property yearround..pull up a chair and buy a firepit and relax by the babbling brook..and an added bonus this property is flat and is zoned commerical ..nearby is Bethel woods/Casino/water park and lots of shopping in Liberty or Monticello..2 hours to NYC..come and take a look..all offers presented
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2023-09-08$425,000 Active
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2023-03-10historical
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2022-06-03$418,000 Active
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2021-03-23historical
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2021-03-04$329,000 Active
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2020-12-28historical
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2020-06-28$299,000 Active
ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot
backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.
Tax reassessment forecast NY · Partial reset (capped growth)
- Current annual tax
- $3,193 · $266/mo
- Projected year-2 tax
- $3,962 · $330/mo
- Expected delta
- +$770/yr (+$64/mo · 24.1%)
ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.
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Taxation est. · year 1
- Rental income
- $23,487
- − Mortgage interest
- −$15,684
- − Property taxes
- −$3,193
- − Insurance
- −$1,400
- − Repairs & maintenance
- −$1,879
- − Management
- −$1,879
- − Depreciation
- −$8,145
- Taxable loss
- −$8,693
- Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
- +$2,086
- After-tax cash flow
- $-1,572/yr
For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.
Schools (NCES district)
- District
- Livingston Manor Central School District
- NCES district ID
- 3617580
- Math proficiency
- 55% ▲ 5.00%
- Reading proficiency
- 45% ▬ 0.00%
- Median HH income
- $51,401
- Composite
- 44.96/100
- National rank
- #5872
- State rank
- #456 of 755 in NY
Livability — Livingston Manor
- Score
- 50/100
- State rank
- #1173
- US rank
- #25609
Category grades
Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.
Census & demographics
- Census place
- Livingston Manor, NY
- Population (ZIP)
- 4,061
Population outlook (Sullivan County) Hauer SSP2
- Today (2025)
- 68,974 people
- By 2030
- 65,609 · -4.9%
- By 2040
- 58,878 · -14.6%
- By 2050
- 52,500 · -23.9%
- By 2075
- 39,941 · -42.1%
- By 2100
- 28,880 · -58.1%
Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023
- Neighborhood character
- Predominantly White (85%)
- Race & ethnicity
- White 85% Two or more races 8% Hispanic / Latino 7% Asian 3%
- Hispanic origin (detail)
- Puerto Rican 3%
- Common ancestry
- Danish 4% Subsaharan African 4% Lithuanian 3%
- Foreign-born
- 9% · Canada, Jamaica, South Korea
- Languages at home
- 90% English-only · Spanish 3% Other Indo-European 3% Russian/Polish/Slavic 2%
Political lean MEDSL · Sullivan
- 2024 margin
- R (+16.7) · D 41.6% · R 58.4%
- 2008→2024 swing
- -26.2pp toward R · 2008: 9.5pp · 2024: -16.7pp
- All cycles
- 2024: R+16.7 2020: R+9.2 2016: R+13.7 2012: D+10.4 2008: D+9.5
Not yet ingested
- Civics
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Market trends
- HPI YoY
- ▲ 59.59%
- Current HPI
- 446.6757
- Rent YoY
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- State GDP YoY
- ▲ 2.60%
- F500 in state
- 92
Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)
| Industry | F500 HQs | Revenue |
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| Financial Services | 10 | $950B |
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| Consumer Goods | 9 | $162B |
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| Insurance | 4 | $225B |
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| Telecommunications | 2 | $144B |
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| Pharmaceuticals | 2 | $112B |
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| Media / Entertainment | 2 | $69B |
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Price history
+0.3% since first listed10 events — show timeline
- 2025-12-05 Price Changed $299,900 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2025-10-26 Price Changed $329,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2025-10-02 Listed $349,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2023-09-08 Listed $425,000 PWMLS
- 2023-03-10 Listing Removed — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2022-06-03 Listed $418,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2021-03-23 Listing Removed — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2021-03-04 Listed $329,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2020-12-28 Listing Removed — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2020-06-28 Listed $299,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
Cash-flow waterfall
monthlySold comps — $/sqft
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