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13 Creamery
D+ Composite 48.76
Why this score? — see what drove the D+ grade

The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • ARV discount +15.0/15.0
  • Appreciation +10.0/10.0
  • Cash flow +7.8/30.0
  • Schools +4.5/10.0
  • Rent growth +2.5/5.0
  • Livability +2.5/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • 1% rule +2.0/10.0
  • DSCR +1.9/10.0

$280,000

13 Creamery · Livingston Manor, NY 12758
3 bd · 1.0 ba · 2,200 sqft · SingleFamily · 259 Days on market
Built 2016 $127/sqft · 34% below area Est $426k · 34% under

🖨 Deal sheet 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Listing remarks MLS

PRICE REDUCED 12/4/25 to 299900..LOCATION LOCATION. .This 2,200 Sq. ft. 3 bedroom one bathroom house is in the Hamlet of Livingston Manor.this house has municipal water and sewer... walk to all of the town amenities.. great weekend house/air b n b or live here for all the 4 seasons in the Catskill Mountains.. ..Low taxes..12'ceilings with a large family room with a huge dry bar..HIGH SPEED INTERNET. .over sized bathroom ..large bedrooms. .large eat in kitchen..the Cattail Brook runs along a section at the back of the property yearround..pull up a chair and buy a firepit and relax by the babbling brook..and an added bonus this property is flat and is zoned commerical ..nearby is Bethel woods/Casino/water park and lots of shopping in Liberty or Monticello..2 hours to NYC..come and take a look..all offers presented

Key facts

  • Cattail brook
  • High speed internet
  • Built 2016

Tags

HAMLET OF LIVINGSTON MANORWALK TO ALL TOWN AMENITIESHIGH SPEED INTERNETCATTAIL BROOKFLAT AND ZONED COMMERCIAL

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 3-bed/1.0-bath single-family listed at $280k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $-305 ($-4k/yr) — negative.
  • To cash-flow at today's rent, offer at most $226k (19.2% below list).
  • To meet the 1% rule (rent ≥ 1% of price), the offer needs to be $196k (30.1% below list).
  • Recommended offer: $196k (30.1% below list) — sets the bar for 1% rule.
  • Cap rate 5.0% vs local median 3.0% in Livingston Manor — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 50/100 on livability (#1,173 in NY) — a working-class tenant base; expect higher turnover. Strengths: crime A; Watch: schools D, amenities F, commute F.
  • Livingston Manor Central School District (rural): math 55% / reading 45% proficiency, ranked #456 of 755 in NY (top 60%) — acceptable for families but not a draw, mixed tenant base, ~2y average lease.
  • Market conditions: 81 active listings in the ZIP; 739 units permitted in Sullivan County in 2024 (5 in 5+ unit buildings).

Forward outlook

  • In year one you build about $30k of equity ($2k loan paydown + $28k appreciation (10.0% local appreciation)).
  • Sullivan County population projected at -24% by 2050 — secular population decline; favor cash flow + early exit over multi-decade hold.
  • By year 2, paydown + projected appreciation supports a ~$48k cash-out refi (75% LTV) — recoverable capital for the next deal without selling this one.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 259 days — a 12% lower offer ($246k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 5 sale attempts since 6y ago; this cycle's ask has dropped $69k (20%) from the opening price — seller is motivated, your offer sets the floor, not the list.
Recommended offer $195,727 (30.1% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
  2. It's been on market 259 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 30% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
  3. Why hasn't it sold? Are there any deal-killer items the seller is aware of (foundation, flood, title, zoning, code violations)?
  4. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  5. Schools are D-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
  6. The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
  7. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  8. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  9. How much new for-sale + rental construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply typically softens prices + rents 12–24 months out; constrained supply supports both.

Investment metrics

1% rule
0.70%
Cap rate
4.99%
Cash-on-cash
-4.67%
DSCR
0.79
GRM
11.9

CMA / ARV

ARV (median comp)
$425,553
List price
$280,000
Delta
-34.20%
Verdict
UNDERPRICED
Comps
16 within 1.0 mi
Show comp detail 4 sales within ~0.75 mi
Address Dist Beds/Ba Sqft Sold Price $/sf Match
14 Dubois St 0.16mi 3/2.5 1,986 (-10%) 1mo $475,000 $239 69
17 Hazel Spur Rd 0.17mi 4/3.0 (+1) 2,346 (+7%) 11mo $489,000 $208 59
534 Old Route 17 0.51mi 3/2.5 1,900 (-14%) 6mo $372,000 $196 42
16 Hazel Rd 0.62mi 3/2.5 1,932 (-12%) 12mo $465,000 $241 35

Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.

Projected returns pro-forma

10.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
21.0%
Equity multiple
2.70×
Total profit
$133,059
Equity at exit
$252,246
10-year hold
IRR
19.0%
Equity multiple
6.19×
Total profit
$407,060
Equity at exit
$543,978

Cash invested: $78,400 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
State New York
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
NYC rent stabilization (~1M units); 2019 HSTPA strengthened tenant rights; courts deeply backlogged.

ZIP-level market 12758

Home prices YoY
15.4%
Active inventory
81
Price-to-rent
11.9×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$1,957 medium interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$1,468
Tax from tax record
$266 /mo · $3,193/yr
Insurance
$117
HOA
$0
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$411
Net cashflow
$-305

Break-even live

Break-even rent $2,343
Max offer price $226,152
Occupancy floor

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$70,000
Closing costs
$8,400
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Listing history 24 events

  1. 2026-06-18
    days on market $280,000 Active 259 DOM
  2. 2026-06-17
    days on market $280,000 Active 258 DOM
  3. 2026-06-16
    days on market $280,000 Active 257 DOM
  4. 2026-06-15
    days on market $280,000 Active 256 DOM
  5. 2026-06-13
    days on market $280,000 Active 254 DOM
  6. 2026-06-12
    days on market $280,000 Active 253 DOM
  7. 2026-06-09
    days on market $280,000 Active 250 DOM
  8. 2026-06-08
    days on market $280,000 Active 249 DOM
  9. 2026-06-07
    days on market $280,000 Active 248 DOM
  10. 2026-06-07
    days on market $280,000 Active 247 DOM
  11. 2026-06-04
    days on market $280,000 Active 244 DOM
  12. 2026-06-02
    days on market $280,000 Active 243 DOM
  13. 2026-06-01
    days on market $280,000 Active 242 DOM
  14. 2026-05-31
    days on market $280,000 Active 241 DOM
  15. 2025-12-05
    price $299,900 824-char remark
    Show marketing remark (824 chars)

    PRICE REDUCED 12/4/25 to 299900..LOCATION LOCATION. .This 2,200 Sq. ft. 3 bedroom one bathroom house is in the Hamlet of Livingston Manor.this house has municipal water and sewer... walk to all of the town amenities.. great weekend house/air b n b or live here for all the 4 seasons in the Catskill Mountains.. ..Low taxes..12'ceilings with a large family room with a huge dry bar..HIGH SPEED INTERNET. .over sized bathroom ..large bedrooms. .large eat in kitchen..the Cattail Brook runs along a section at the back of the property yearround..pull up a chair and buy a firepit and relax by the babbling brook..and an added bonus this property is flat and is zoned commerical ..nearby is Bethel woods/Casino/water park and lots of shopping in Liberty or Monticello..2 hours to NYC..come and take a look..all offers presented

  16. 2025-10-26
    price $329,000 824-char remark
    Show marketing remark (824 chars)

    PRICE REDUCED 12/4/25 to 299900..LOCATION LOCATION. .This 2,200 Sq. ft. 3 bedroom one bathroom house is in the Hamlet of Livingston Manor.this house has municipal water and sewer... walk to all of the town amenities.. great weekend house/air b n b or live here for all the 4 seasons in the Catskill Mountains.. ..Low taxes..12'ceilings with a large family room with a huge dry bar..HIGH SPEED INTERNET. .over sized bathroom ..large bedrooms. .large eat in kitchen..the Cattail Brook runs along a section at the back of the property yearround..pull up a chair and buy a firepit and relax by the babbling brook..and an added bonus this property is flat and is zoned commerical ..nearby is Bethel woods/Casino/water park and lots of shopping in Liberty or Monticello..2 hours to NYC..come and take a look..all offers presented

  17. 2025-10-02
    listed $349,000 Active 824-char remark
    Show marketing remark (824 chars)

    PRICE REDUCED 12/4/25 to 299900..LOCATION LOCATION. .This 2,200 Sq. ft. 3 bedroom one bathroom house is in the Hamlet of Livingston Manor.this house has municipal water and sewer... walk to all of the town amenities.. great weekend house/air b n b or live here for all the 4 seasons in the Catskill Mountains.. ..Low taxes..12'ceilings with a large family room with a huge dry bar..HIGH SPEED INTERNET. .over sized bathroom ..large bedrooms. .large eat in kitchen..the Cattail Brook runs along a section at the back of the property yearround..pull up a chair and buy a firepit and relax by the babbling brook..and an added bonus this property is flat and is zoned commerical ..nearby is Bethel woods/Casino/water park and lots of shopping in Liberty or Monticello..2 hours to NYC..come and take a look..all offers presented

  18. 2023-09-08
    listed $425,000 Active
  19. 2023-03-10
    historical
  20. 2022-06-03
    listed $418,000 Active
  21. 2021-03-23
    historical
  22. 2021-03-04
    listed $329,000 Active
  23. 2020-12-28
    historical
  24. 2020-06-28
    listed $299,000 Active

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Tax reassessment forecast NY · Partial reset (capped growth)

Current annual tax
$3,193 · $266/mo
Projected year-2 tax
$3,962 · $330/mo
Expected delta
+$770/yr (+$64/mo · 24.1%)

ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$23,487
− Mortgage interest
−$15,684
− Property taxes
−$3,193
− Insurance
−$1,400
− Repairs & maintenance
−$1,879
− Management
−$1,879
− Depreciation
−$8,145
Taxable loss
−$8,693
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
+$2,086
After-tax cash flow
$-1,572/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Livingston Manor Central School District
NCES district ID
3617580
Math proficiency
55% ▲ 5.00%
Reading proficiency
45% ▬ 0.00%
Median HH income
$51,401
Composite
44.96/100
National rank
#5872
State rank
#456 of 755 in NY

Livability — Livingston Manor

Score
50/100
State rank
#1173
US rank
#25609

Category grades

Amenities F Commute F Cost of living C+ Crime A Employment F Housing F Health & safety D- User ratings A

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
Livingston Manor, NY
Population (ZIP)
4,061

Population outlook (Sullivan County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
68,974 people
By 2030
65,609 · -4.9%
By 2040
58,878 · -14.6%
By 2050
52,500 · -23.9%
By 2075
39,941 · -42.1%
By 2100
28,880 · -58.1%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Predominantly White (85%)
Race & ethnicity
White 85% Two or more races 8% Hispanic / Latino 7% Asian 3%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Puerto Rican 3%
Common ancestry
Danish 4% Subsaharan African 4% Lithuanian 3%
Foreign-born
9% · Canada, Jamaica, South Korea
Languages at home
90% English-only · Spanish 3% Other Indo-European 3% Russian/Polish/Slavic 2%

Political lean MEDSL · Sullivan

2024 margin
R (+16.7) · D 41.6% · R 58.4%
2008→2024 swing
-26.2pp toward R · 2008: 9.5pp · 2024: -16.7pp
All cycles
2024: R+16.7 2020: R+9.2 2016: R+13.7 2012: D+10.4 2008: D+9.5

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▲ 59.59%
Current HPI
446.6757
Rent YoY
Metro
State GDP YoY
▲ 2.60%
F500 in state
92

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

+0.3% since first listed
10 events — show timeline
  • 2025-12-05 Price Changed $299,900 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2025-10-26 Price Changed $329,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2025-10-02 Listed $349,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2023-09-08 Listed $425,000 PWMLS
  • 2023-03-10 Listing Removed OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2022-06-03 Listed $418,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2021-03-23 Listing Removed OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2021-03-04 Listed $329,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2020-12-28 Listing Removed OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2020-06-28 Listed $299,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid

Cash-flow waterfall

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Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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