156 Hardscrabble Rd · North Creek, NY
Flood risk 1/10 · Minimal
- FEMA flood zone
- X
- Chance of flooding over 30 yrs
- 0.0%
- Est. flood insurance / yr
- $473 – $860
Fire risk 3/10 · Minor
- Est. fire insurance / yr
- $691 – $1,283
Heat risk 1/10 · Minimal
- Hot days now (above 90°F)
- 7 days/yr
- Hot days in 30 yrs
- 16 days/yr
Wind risk 1/10 · Minimal
- Chance of severe wind over 30 yrs
- 1.0%
Air-quality risk 1/10 · Minimal
- Unhealthy air days now
- 0 days/yr
- Unhealthy air days in 30 yrs
- 0 days/yr
Risk factors via First Street. Map © Google.
Why this score? — see what drove the A grade
The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).
- Cash flow +30.0/30.0
- ARV discount +15.0/15.0
- DSCR +10.0/10.0
- Appreciation +10.0/10.0
- 1% rule +8.6/10.0
- Schools +4.4/10.0
- Condition / age +3.8/5.0
- Livability +3.2/5.0
- Rent growth +2.5/5.0
$288,000
🖨 Deal sheet 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence
Listing remarks MLS
Nestled on 1.57 acres just 8 miles from Gore Mountain, this one-of-a-kind ski retreat blends rustic charm with everyday comfort -- everything you need for the perfect mountain getaway. With four bedrooms and one and a half baths, there's plenty of room for the whole crew. The first-floor primary bedroom makes coming and going a breeze, while the generous dining room sets the scene for long, lively dinners after a day on the slopes. Skiers and outdoor lovers will feel right at home with a dedicated gear room featuring its own private entrance -- kick off your boots, hang your layers, and keep the snow where it belongs. A sunny three-season room invites you to soak in the Adirondacks through every changing leaf and late spring thaw, and an in-home laundry room with newer appliances keeps things running smoothly all season long. Outside, established gardens and a fully fenced yard make this property as welcoming for pets as it is for people. Whether you're hosting a crowd or stealing a quiet weekend away, the grounds offer beauty and breathing room in equal measure. Peace of mind comes built in -- a brand-new septic system and leachfield were installed in October 2025. Adventure out front. Sanctuary at home.
Key facts
- Spacious dining room
- Adirondack sanctuary
- 1.57 acre lot
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What this means for you Summary
Snapshot
- This is a 4-bed/1.5-bath single-family listed at $288k. Condition is rated good.
Deal economics
- At list price, monthly cash flow is $1k ($13k/yr) — positive.
- The deal already cash-flows at list — no discount required.
- Meets the 1% rule at list price ($4k rent vs $288k).
- Recommended offer: $262k (9.0% below list) — sets the bar for market timing.
- Cap rate 10.9% vs local median 2.2% in North Creek — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.
Location & tenants
- Location reads 65/100 on livability (#683 in NY) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: housing A+, health & safety A+, cost of living B; Watch: schools D+, crime F, amenities F.
- North Warren Central School District (rural): math 48% / reading 55% proficiency, ranked #352 of 590 in NY (top 60%) — acceptable for families but not a draw, mixed tenant base, ~2y average lease.
- Market conditions: 32 active listings in the ZIP; 180 units permitted in Warren County in 2024 (40 in 5+ unit buildings).
Forward outlook
- In year one you build about $31k of equity ($2k loan paydown + $29k appreciation (10.0% local appreciation)).
- Warren County population projected at -19% by 2050 — secular population decline; favor cash flow + early exit over multi-decade hold.
- At projected returns (10.0% appreciation + 3.0% rent growth), your $81k cash investment doubles in ~2 years — after that, you're playing with house money.
- By year 2, paydown + projected appreciation supports a ~$49k cash-out refi (75% LTV) — recoverable capital for the next deal without selling this one.
Negotiation context
- It's been on market 94 days — a 9% lower offer ($262k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
- 4 sale attempts with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
Risks & watch-outs
- Watch-outs: built in 1870 — expect roof / HVAC / electrical / plumbing capex.
Questions for the listing agent
- It's been on market 94 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 9% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
- Built in 1870 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
- Why hasn't it sold? Are there any deal-killer items the seller is aware of (foundation, flood, title, zoning, code violations)?
- Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
- Schools are D-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
- Crime grade is F in this area — have there been break-ins, vandalism, or insurance claims at this property in the last 3 years? What carrier currently insures it and at what premium?
- What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
- What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
- How much new for-sale + rental construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply typically softens prices + rents 12–24 months out; constrained supply supports both.
Investment metrics
- 1% rule
- 1.36% ✓
- Cap rate
- 10.85%
- Cash-on-cash
- 16.28%
- DSCR
- 1.72
- GRM
- 6.1
CMA / ARV
- ARV (median comp)
- $408,856
- List price
- $288,000
- Delta
- -29.56%
- Verdict
- UNDERPRICED
- Comps
- 2 within 1.0 mi
Projected returns pro-forma
10.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon
- IRR
- 36.3%
- Equity multiple
- 3.81×
- Total profit
- $226,572
- Equity at exit
- $259,453
- IRR
- 31.3%
- Equity multiple
- 8.60×
- Total profit
- $612,554
- Equity at exit
- $559,521
Cash invested: $80,640 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.
Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology
- Overall (STATE)
- 15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
- State New York
- 15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
- County
- — inherits STATE
- City
- — inherits STATE
ZIP-level market 12853
- Home prices YoY
- 3.4%
- Active inventory
- 32
- Price-to-rent
- 6.1×
Monthly cashflow live
- Estimated rent
- $3,904 medium interval (Pro) →
- Mortgage (P&I)
- −$1,510
- Tax est. 1.5%
- −$360 /mo · $4,320/yr
- Insurance
- −$120
- HOA
- −$0
- Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
- −$820
- Net cashflow
- $1,094
Break-even live
UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt
Financing live
Cash to close
- Down payment
- $72,000
- Closing costs
- $8,640
- Reserves months
- —
- Total cash needed
- —
Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live
Conventional
25% down · 7.5% · 30yr
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
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Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.
DSCR
20% down · 8.5% · 30yr
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
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No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.
Hard money
10% down · 12.0% · 12mo
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
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Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.
Listing history 26 events
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2026-06-18days on market $288,000 Active 94 DOM
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2026-06-17days on market $288,000 Active 93 DOM
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2026-06-16days on market $288,000 Active 92 DOM
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2026-06-15days on market $288,000 Active 91 DOM
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2026-06-13days on market $288,000 Active 89 DOM
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2026-06-12days on market $288,000 Active 88 DOM
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2026-06-09days on market $288,000 Active 85 DOM
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2026-06-08days on market $288,000 Active 84 DOM
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2026-06-07days on market $288,000 Active 83 DOM
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2026-06-07days on market $288,000 Active 82 DOM
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2026-06-04days on market $288,000 Active 79 DOM
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2026-06-02days on market $288,000 Active 78 DOM
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2026-06-01days on market $288,000 Active 77 DOM
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2026-05-31days on market $288,000 Active 76 DOM
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2026-05-08price $288,000 1229-char remark
Show marketing remark (1229 chars)
Nestled on 1.57 acres just 8 miles from Gore Mountain, this one-of-a-kind ski retreat blends rustic charm with everyday comfort -- everything you need for the perfect mountain getaway. With four bedrooms and one and a half baths, there's plenty of room for the whole crew. The first-floor primary bedroom makes coming and going a breeze, while the generous dining room sets the scene for long, lively dinners after a day on the slopes. Skiers and outdoor lovers will feel right at home with a dedicated gear room featuring its own private entrance -- kick off your boots, hang your layers, and keep the snow where it belongs. A sunny three-season room invites you to soak in the Adirondacks through every changing leaf and late spring thaw, and an in-home laundry room with newer appliances keeps things running smoothly all season long. Outside, established gardens and a fully fenced yard make this property as welcoming for pets as it is for people. Whether you're hosting a crowd or stealing a quiet weekend away, the grounds offer beauty and breathing room in equal measure. Peace of mind comes built in -- a brand-new septic system and leachfield were installed in October 2025. Adventure out front. Sanctuary at home.
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2026-04-10price $289,000 1229-char remark
Show marketing remark (1229 chars)
Nestled on 1.57 acres just 8 miles from Gore Mountain, this one-of-a-kind ski retreat blends rustic charm with everyday comfort -- everything you need for the perfect mountain getaway. With four bedrooms and one and a half baths, there's plenty of room for the whole crew. The first-floor primary bedroom makes coming and going a breeze, while the generous dining room sets the scene for long, lively dinners after a day on the slopes. Skiers and outdoor lovers will feel right at home with a dedicated gear room featuring its own private entrance -- kick off your boots, hang your layers, and keep the snow where it belongs. A sunny three-season room invites you to soak in the Adirondacks through every changing leaf and late spring thaw, and an in-home laundry room with newer appliances keeps things running smoothly all season long. Outside, established gardens and a fully fenced yard make this property as welcoming for pets as it is for people. Whether you're hosting a crowd or stealing a quiet weekend away, the grounds offer beauty and breathing room in equal measure. Peace of mind comes built in -- a brand-new septic system and leachfield were installed in October 2025. Adventure out front. Sanctuary at home.
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2026-03-16$294,000 Active 1229-char remark
Show marketing remark (1229 chars)
Nestled on 1.57 acres just 8 miles from Gore Mountain, this one-of-a-kind ski retreat blends rustic charm with everyday comfort -- everything you need for the perfect mountain getaway. With four bedrooms and one and a half baths, there's plenty of room for the whole crew. The first-floor primary bedroom makes coming and going a breeze, while the generous dining room sets the scene for long, lively dinners after a day on the slopes. Skiers and outdoor lovers will feel right at home with a dedicated gear room featuring its own private entrance -- kick off your boots, hang your layers, and keep the snow where it belongs. A sunny three-season room invites you to soak in the Adirondacks through every changing leaf and late spring thaw, and an in-home laundry room with newer appliances keeps things running smoothly all season long. Outside, established gardens and a fully fenced yard make this property as welcoming for pets as it is for people. Whether you're hosting a crowd or stealing a quiet weekend away, the grounds offer beauty and breathing room in equal measure. Peace of mind comes built in -- a brand-new septic system and leachfield were installed in October 2025. Adventure out front. Sanctuary at home.
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2026-03-15historical
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2026-03-02price $294,000
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2026-02-11price $298,000
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2025-09-15$299,000 Active
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2025-07-13status Active
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2025-07-13historical Contingent
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2025-07-13historical
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2025-02-04price $319,000
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2025-01-14$350,000 Active
ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot
backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.
Climate risk First Street
- Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X · 0% chance over 30 yrs
- Wildfire 3/10 Moderate
- Heat 1/10 Low 7 d/yr ≥90°F today · 16 d/yr by 30 yrs out
- Wind 1/10 Low 100% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
- Air quality 1/10 Low 0 unhealthy d/yr today · 0 by 30 yrs out
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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi
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Taxation est. · year 1
- Rental income
- $46,846
- − Mortgage interest
- −$16,132
- − Property taxes
- −$4,320
- − Insurance
- −$1,440
- − Repairs & maintenance
- −$3,748
- − Management
- −$3,748
- − Depreciation
- −$8,378
- Taxable income
- $9,080
- Est. tax owed @ 24.0%
- −$2,179
- After-tax cash flow
- $10,946/yr
For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.
Condition & rehab AI · 12 photos
This single-family home offers a good condition with a good rehab level, featuring a well-maintained exterior, hardwood floors, and neutral paint. Minor updates to the kitchen and bathroom would significantly enhance its value.
Repairs flagged
- Minor kitchen cabinets — dated design
- Minor bathroom fixtures — dated design
Value-add opportunities
- Both paint interior walls — enhances curb appeal and interior aesthetics
- Both replace kitchen cabinets — modernizes the kitchen and increases functionality
- Both update bathroom fixtures — modernizes the bathroom and increases functionality
Renovation cost estimate screening
| Repair item | Severity | Est. cost |
|---|---|---|
| kitchen cabinets · dated design | Minor | $500–3,000 |
| bathroom fixtures · dated design | Minor | $500–3,000 |
| Total estimated repair cost · 2 items | $1,000–6,000 |
Value-add ROI direction
- Both paint interior walls — enhances curb appeal and interior aesthetics ↑
- Both replace kitchen cabinets — modernizes the kitchen and increases functionality ↑
- Both update bathroom fixtures — modernizes the bathroom and increases functionality ↑
ⓘ Cost ranges are severity-bucket heuristics (US national rule-of-thumb). Get contractor quotes + a written scope before underwriting a rehab budget.
Schools (NCES district)
- District
- North Warren Central School District
- NCES district ID
- 3616960
- Math proficiency
- 48% ▲ 6.00%
- Reading proficiency
- 55% ▲ 6.00%
- Median HH income
- $53,309
- Composite
- 44.32/100
- National rank
- #2829
- State rank
- #352 of 590 in NY
Livability — North Creek
- Score
- 65/100
- State rank
- #683
- US rank
- #12939
Category grades
Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.
Census & demographics
- Population (ZIP)
- 1,384
Population outlook (Warren County) Hauer SSP2
- Today (2025)
- 62,372 people
- By 2030
- 60,491 · -3.0%
- By 2040
- 55,616 · -10.8%
- By 2050
- 50,437 · -19.1%
- By 2075
- 40,843 · -34.5%
- By 2100
- 31,159 · -50.0%
Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023
- Neighborhood character
- Predominantly White (92%)
- Race & ethnicity
- White 92% Asian 3% Two or more races 2% Hispanic / Latino 2%
- Common ancestry
- Lithuanian 11% Slovak 5% Iranian 4%
- Foreign-born
- 1%
- Languages at home
- 99% English-only · Korean 1%
Political lean MEDSL · Warren
- 2024 margin
- Toss-up / Even · D 47.9% · R 52.1%
- 2008→2024 swing
- -6.9pp toward R · 2008: 2.6pp · 2024: -4.2pp
- All cycles
- 2024: R+4.2 2020: R+0.2 2016: R+10.6 2012: D+2.1 2008: D+2.6
Not yet ingested
- Civics
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Market trends
- HPI YoY
- ▲ 10.16%
- Current HPI
- 310.7228
- Rent YoY
- —
- Metro
- —
- State GDP YoY
- ▲ 2.60%
- F500 in state
- 92
Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)
| Industry | F500 HQs | Revenue |
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| Financial Services | 10 | $950B |
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| Consumer Goods | 9 | $162B |
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| Insurance | 4 | $225B |
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| Telecommunications | 2 | $144B |
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| Pharmaceuticals | 2 | $112B |
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| Media / Entertainment | 2 | $69B |
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Price history
-17.7% since first listed12 events — show timeline
- 2026-05-08 Price Changed $288,000 Global MLS
- 2026-04-10 Price Changed $289,000 Global MLS
- 2026-03-16 Listed $294,000 Global MLS
- 2026-03-15 Listing Removed — Global MLS
- 2026-03-02 Price Changed $294,000 Global MLS
- 2026-02-11 Price Changed $298,000 Global MLS
- 2025-09-15 Listed $299,000 Global MLS
- 2025-07-13 Relisted — Global MLS
- 2025-07-13 Contingent — Global MLS
- 2025-07-13 Listing Removed — Global MLS
- 2025-02-04 Price Changed $319,000 Global MLS
- 2025-01-14 Listed $350,000 Global MLS
Cash-flow waterfall
monthlySold comps — $/sqft
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