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2008 3rd Ave N Unit 8D
D Composite 44.35
Why this score? — see what drove the D grade

The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • ARV discount +15.0/15.0
  • Cash flow +7.9/30.0
  • 1% rule +5.3/10.0
  • Appreciation +4.8/10.0
  • Livability +3.4/5.0
  • Rent growth +2.5/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • DSCR +2.0/10.0
  • Schools +0.9/10.0

$169,900

2008 3rd Ave N Unit 8D · Birmingham, AL 35203
1 bd · 1.0 ba · 953 sqft · Condo public records · 59 Days on market
Built 1925 $178/sqft · 24% below area Est $224k · 24% under ↓ 16% since listing

🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Listing remarks MLS

Welcome home to Downtown living! This turnkey condo features 1 bedroom & 1 full bathroom in the Historic Watts building. The secured front building entry leads you into the iconic lobby featuring a resident mail room. Travel to the 8th floor on secure elevator & hallway doors. This unit features tons of natural light through the floor to ceiling windows & open floor plan. The kitchen has recently been updated w/ new countertops, dishwasher & microwave. Dining space is great for entertaining or office. Laundry room has w/ d, marble walls & utility sink. The bedroom features a decent closet & natural light. The full bathroom has been updated w/ vanity & new tile flooring. This unit comes w/ 1 assigned parking space in the gated parking lot. Convenient location w/ tons of eatery options like Johin'na, Paramount, LaFresca, The Essential & more just blocks away. Enjoy cocktails at The Margaret, Collins Bar, or Adios & then head to the Alabama Theatre for a full night on the town.

Key facts

  • Built 1925
  • Listed 59 days

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 1-bed/1.0-bath condo listed at $170k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $-179 ($-2k/yr) — negative.
  • The deal already cash-flows at list — no discount required.
  • Meets the 1% rule at list price ($2k rent vs $170k).
  • Recommended offer: $165k (3.0% below list) — sets the bar for market timing.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 67/100 on livability (#78 in AL) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: commute A+, cost of living A+, housing A+; Watch: amenities C-, schools F, crime F.
  • Birmingham City (urban): math 4% / reading 20% proficiency, ranked #116 of 129 in AL (top 90%) — low school quality limits family demand, transient renter base, plan for 1-2y turnover; 82% free/reduced lunch — lower-income household profile, screen leases tightly.
  • Market conditions: 44 active listings in the ZIP; 40 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals leasing fast (median 13d on market — plan ~1-2 weeks tenant-placement turnaround); 2,114 units permitted in Jefferson County in 2024 (556 in 5+ unit buildings).
  • This rent runs 44% of the median local income ($47k/yr) — at the standard rent-burdened threshold; future hikes will face affordability resistance.

Forward outlook

  • In year one you build about $634 of equity ($1k loan paydown + $-541 appreciation (-0.3% local appreciation)).
  • Jefferson County population projected to shrink 4% by 2050 — rents likely to lag national; underwrite the cash flow, not the appreciation.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 59 days — a 3% lower offer ($165k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 2 sale attempts since 6y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Watch-outs: HOA is 28% of rent; built in 1925 — expect roof / HVAC / electrical / plumbing capex.
Recommended offer $164,803 (3.0% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
  2. It's been on market 59 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 3% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
  3. Built in 1925 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
  4. What does the HOA fee cover, when was the last increase, and are there any pending special assessments or reserve-fund shortfalls?
  5. Any open or pending special assessments — roof, HVAC, plumbing, elevator, façade? What's the per-unit balance and payoff schedule, and is the seller paying it off at close or rolling it to the buyer?
  6. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  7. Schools are F-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
  8. Crime grade is F in this area — have there been break-ins, vandalism, or insurance claims at this property in the last 3 years? What carrier currently insures it and at what premium?
  9. The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
  10. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  11. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  12. How much new apartment / multifamily construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply (>2% of stock underway) typically softens rents 12–24 months out; light construction supports rent growth.

Investment metrics

1% rule
1.03%
Cap rate
5.03%
Cash-on-cash
-4.52%
DSCR
0.80
GRM
8.1

CMA / ARV

ARV (median comp)
$223,640
List price
$169,900
Delta
-24.03%
Verdict
UNDERPRICED
Comps
20 within 1.0 mi

Projected returns pro-forma

-0.32% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
-8.6%
Equity multiple
0.61×
Total profit
$-18,640
Equity at exit
$46,646
10-year hold
IRR
-2.1%
Equity multiple
0.78×
Total profit
$-10,372
Equity at exit
$53,969

Cash invested: $47,572 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
90 Strongly Landlord-Friendly
State Alabama
90 Strongly Landlord-Friendly · R+15
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
Right-to-evict in 7 days for non-payment; no rent control; preempted statewide; courts move quickly.

ZIP-level market 35203

Home prices YoY
-0.2%
Active inventory
44
Price-to-rent
8.1×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$1,750 high interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$891
Tax from tax record
$111 /mo · $1,338/yr
Insurance
$71
HOA est. from 2 same-building comps
$488
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$367
Net cashflow
$-179

Break-even live

Break-even rent $1,976
Max offer price $138,258
Occupancy floor

Sensitivity live

Price -10% $-83 -5% $-131 +0% $-179 +5% $-227 +10% $-275
Rent -10% $-317 -5% $-248 +0% $-179 +5% $-110 +10% $-41
Rate -1.0pp $-94 -0.5pp $-136 base $-179 +0.5pp $-223 +1.0pp $-268

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$42,475
Closing costs
$5,097
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Rent comps 40 comps

AddressBedsBaths SqftRent$/sqft DOM Units Dist
1911 3rd Ave N Birmingham, AL 1.0 655 $1,788 $2.73 24d 3 0.10mi
201 20th St N Birmingham, AL 1.0 1.0 491 $1,619 $3.29 4d 30 0.10mi
1816 3rd Ave N Birmingham, AL 1.0 1.0–1.5 1305 $2,865 $2.20 4d 15 0.16mi
120 19th St N Unit 312 Birmingham, AL 2.0 2.0 952 $3,495 $3.67 45d 1 0.20mi
120 19th St N Birmingham, AL 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 886 $1,670 $1.88 3d 14 0.20mi
600 19th St N Birmingham, AL 1.0–3.0 1.0–2.0 1120 $1,900 $1.70 17d 30 0.27mi
600 19th St N Birmingham, AL 1.0–3.0 1.0–3.0 1398 $1,455 $1.04 20d 83 0.27mi
600 19th St N Unit 604 Birmingham, AL 2.0 2.0 1001 $2,895 $2.89 13d 1 0.28mi
600 19th St N Unit 601 Birmingham, AL 2.0 2.0 1001 $2,544 $2.54 13d 1 0.28mi
2212 Morris Ave Apt 208 Birmingham, AL 1.0 1.0 600 $1,423 $2.37 4d 1 0.30mi
2412 2nd Ave N #11 Birmingham, AL 1.0 1.0 990 $1,800 $1.82 45d 1 0.39mi
600 24th St N Birmingham, AL 1.0–3.0 1.0–2.0 1098 $990 $0.90 2d 13 0.39mi
2000 2nd Ave S Birmingham, AL 2.0 1.0–2.0 980 $1,884 $1.92 4d 27 0.45mi
1701 1st Ave S Birmingham, AL 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 889 $1,437 $1.62 3d 21 0.49mi
2014 3rd Ave S Birmingham, AL 3.0 1.0–3.0 1107 $1,772 $1.60 3d 73 0.53mi
2400 1st Ave S Birmingham, AL 2.0 1.0–2.0 824 $1,638 $1.99 2d 29 0.62mi
1400 7th Ave N Birmingham, AL 1.0 1.0 730 $961 $1.32 24d 3 0.63mi
401 20th St S Birmingham, AL 2.0–3.0 2.0 1163 $2,100 $1.81 17d 2 0.66mi
401 20th St S Birmingham, AL 2.0 2.0 1295 $2,000 $1.54 13d 2 0.66mi
425 20th St S Birmingham, AL 2.0 1.0 532 $1,955 $3.67 22d 18 0.67mi
2020 5th Ave S Birmingham, AL 1.0–3.0 1.0–2.5 1108 $1,450 $1.31 15d 4 0.68mi
1508 4th Ave S Birmingham, AL 2.0 2.0 1142 $2,222 $1.95 4d 3 0.75mi
1329 4th Ave S #312 Birmingham, AL 1.0 1.0 630 $1,700 $2.70 24d 1 0.87mi
1329 4th Ave S Birmingham, AL 1.0 1.0 485 $1,700 $3.51 22d 2 0.87mi
1113 15th St N Birmingham, AL 2.0 1.0 700 $880 $1.26 45d 2 0.88mi
2722 5th Ave S Birmingham, AL 2.0 1.0–2.0 794 $1,810 $2.28 2d 11 0.95mi
1305 16th St N Unit 1305 D Birmingham, AL 2.0 1.0 825 $595 $0.72 24d 1 1.02mi
2413 14th Ave N Birmingham, AL 2.0 1.0 720 $675 $0.94 2d 3 1.07mi
1428 F L Shuttlesworth Dr Fl Shuttlesworth Birmingham, AL 2.0 1.0 803 $825 $1.03 24d 3 1.08mi
1802 14th Ct N Birmingham, AL 2.0 1.0 700 $850 $1.21 20d 1 1.12mi
951 18th St S Birmingham, AL 2.0 1.0–2.0 466 $1,690 $3.63 4d 9 1.13mi
2808 7th Ave S Birmingham, AL 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 933 $1,214 $1.30 11d 11 1.15mi
2808 7th Ave S Birmingham, AL 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 933 $1,309 $1.40 2d 11 1.15mi
2900 7th Ave S Birmingham, AL 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 889 $1,180 $1.33 2d 15 1.18mi
1001 20th St S Birmingham, AL 4.0 1.0–4.0 824 $1,670 $2.03 3d 22 1.20mi
2021 10th Ave S Birmingham, AL 1.0 1.0 484 $1,160 $2.40 45d 1 1.20mi
1000 18th St S Unit 1000-11 Birmingham, AL 1.0 1.0 600 $812 $1.35 45d 1 1.22mi
1010 18th St S Birmingham, AL 1.0 1.0 600 $865 $1.44 4d 1 1.23mi
1500 12th St N Birmingham, AL 2.0 1.0 750 $800 $1.07 24d 1 1.30mi
2020 11th Ave S Birmingham, AL 1.0 1.0 515 $1,100 $2.14 4d 5 1.30mi

HOA detail condo

Monthly dues
$0 · $0/yr
Likely covers
securityparking
Assessments
None detected in remarks — confirm with the listing agent.

Listing history 27 events

  1. 2026-06-21
    days on market $169,900 Active 59 DOM
  2. 2026-06-18
    days on market $169,900 Active 56 DOM
  3. 2026-06-17
    days on market $169,900 Active 55 DOM
  4. 2026-06-16
    days on market $169,900 Active 54 DOM
  5. 2026-06-15
    days on market $169,900 Active 53 DOM
  6. 2026-06-13
    days on market $169,900 Active 51 DOM
  7. 2026-06-10
    days on market $169,900 Active 48 DOM
  8. 2026-06-09
    days on market $169,900 Active 47 DOM
  9. 2026-06-08
    days on market $169,900 Active 46 DOM
  10. 2026-06-07
    days on market $169,900 Active 45 DOM
  11. 2026-06-03
    days on market $169,900 Active 41 DOM
  12. 2026-06-02
    days on market $169,900 Active 40 DOM
  13. 2026-06-01
    days on market $169,900 Active 39 DOM
  14. 2026-05-31
    days on market $169,900 Active 38 DOM
  15. 2026-04-23
    listed $169,900 Active 1043-char remark
    Show marketing remark (1043 chars)

    Welcome home to Downtown living! This turnkey condo features 1 bedroom & 1 full bathroom in the Historic Watts building. The secured front building entry leads you into the iconic lobby featuring a resident mail room. Travel to the 8th floor on secure elevator & hallway doors. This unit features tons of natural light through the floor to ceiling windows & open floor plan. The kitchen has recently been updated w/ new countertops, dishwasher & microwave. Dining space is great for entertaining or office. Laundry room has w/ d, marble walls & utility sink. The bedroom features a decent closet & natural light. The full bathroom has been updated w/ vanity & new tile flooring. This unit comes w/ 1 assigned parking space in the gated parking lot. Convenient location w/ tons of eatery options like Johin'na, Paramount, LaFresca, The Essential & more just blocks away. Enjoy cocktails at The Margaret, Collins Bar, or Adios & then head to the Alabama Theatre for a full night on the town.

  16. 2026-04-21
    historical $169,900 1043-char remark
    Show marketing remark (1043 chars)

    Welcome home to Downtown living! This turnkey condo features 1 bedroom & 1 full bathroom in the Historic Watts building. The secured front building entry leads you into the iconic lobby featuring a resident mail room. Travel to the 8th floor on secure elevator & hallway doors. This unit features tons of natural light through the floor to ceiling windows & open floor plan. The kitchen has recently been updated w/ new countertops, dishwasher & microwave. Dining space is great for entertaining or office. Laundry room has w/ d, marble walls & utility sink. The bedroom features a decent closet & natural light. The full bathroom has been updated w/ vanity & new tile flooring. This unit comes w/ 1 assigned parking space in the gated parking lot. Convenient location w/ tons of eatery options like Johin'na, Paramount, LaFresca, The Essential & more just blocks away. Enjoy cocktails at The Margaret, Collins Bar, or Adios & then head to the Alabama Theatre for a full night on the town.

  17. 2023-11-11
    price $189,900
  18. 2023-11-01
    price $194,900
  19. 2023-10-16
    price $199,900
  20. 2021-01-19
    soldstatus $163,500
  21. 2021-01-15
    soldstatus $163,500 Sold
  22. 2020-12-01
    historical Contingent
  23. 2020-11-08
    listed $168,500 Active
  24. 2018-10-28
    price $167,000
  25. 2018-09-19
    price $170,000
  26. 2017-07-11
    soldstatus $130,000
  27. 2015-06-19
    soldstatus $202,500

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Tax reassessment forecast AL · Resets to sale price

Current annual tax
$1,338 · $111/mo
Projected year-2 tax
$1,338 · $111/mo
Expected delta
$0/yr ($0/mo · 0.0%)

ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$20,994
− Mortgage interest
−$9,517
− Property taxes
−$1,338
− Insurance
−$850
− Repairs & maintenance
−$1,680
− Management
−$1,680
− HOA
−$5,856
− Depreciation
−$4,943
Taxable loss
−$4,868
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
+$1,168
After-tax cash flow
$-981/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Birmingham City
NCES district ID
0100390
Math proficiency
4% ▼ -17.00%
Reading proficiency
20% ▼ -4.00%
Median HH income
$31,988
Composite
9.49/100
National rank
#9850
State rank
#116 of 129 in AL

Livability — Birmingham

Score
67/100
State rank
#78
US rank
#10412

Category grades

Amenities C- Commute A+ Cost of living A+ Crime F Employment F Housing A+ Health & safety F User ratings C+

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
Birmingham, AL
County
Jefferson County · 527,445 people
City population
210,422
Metro
Birmingham-Hoover, AL
Population (ZIP)
3,506
Household income
$47,434
Rent vs Own
70.3% rent · 29.7% own
Severe rent burden
344.0

Population outlook (Jefferson County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
669,185 people
By 2030
669,694 · +0.1%
By 2040
661,388 · -1.2%
By 2050
643,086 · -3.9%
By 2075
577,267 · -13.7%
By 2100
474,758 · -29.1%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Diverse neighborhood (Simpson 0.58)
Race & ethnicity
Black 49% White 43% Hispanic / Latino 6% Two or more races 3%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Mexican 1%
Common ancestry
Slovak 3% Italian 2% Scotch-Irish 1%
Foreign-born
2% · Canada
Languages at home
98% English-only · Spanish 1% French/Haitian/Cajun 1%

Political lean MEDSL · Jefferson

2024 margin
D (+10.4) · D 54.6% · R 44.2% · Other 1.2%
2008→2024 swing
+5.4pp toward D · 2008: 5.1pp · 2024: 10.4pp
All cycles
2024: D+10.4 2020: D+13.2 2016: D+7.2 2012: D+6.0 2008: D+5.1

Not yet ingested

Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▼ -0.32%
Current HPI
187.0483
Rent YoY
Metro
Birmingham-Hoover, AL
State GDP YoY
▲ 2.94%
F500 in state
4

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in AL)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

-16.1% since first listed
13 events — show timeline
  • 2026-04-23 Listed $169,900 Greater Alabama MLS
  • 2026-04-21 Coming Soon $169,900 Greater Alabama MLS
  • 2023-11-11 Price Changed $189,900 Greater Alabama MLS
  • 2023-11-01 Price Changed $194,900 Greater Alabama MLS
  • 2023-10-16 Price Changed $199,900 Greater Alabama MLS
  • 2021-01-19 Sold (Public Records) $163,500 Public Records
  • 2021-01-15 Sold (MLS) $163,500 Greater Alabama MLS
  • 2020-12-01 Contingent Greater Alabama MLS
  • 2020-11-08 Listed $168,500 Greater Alabama MLS
  • 2018-10-28 Price Changed $167,000 Greater Alabama MLS
  • 2018-09-19 Price Changed $170,000 Greater Alabama MLS
  • 2017-07-11 Sold (Public Records) $130,000 Public Records
  • 2015-06-19 Sold (Public Records) $202,500 Public Records

Property tax history

-0.0%/yr

Latest (2025): $1,338 · +0.0% YoY. Source: county tax records.

Cash-flow waterfall

monthly

Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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