185 South Midddle Neck Rd Unit 1P · Thomaston, NY
Flood risk 1/10 · Minimal
- FEMA flood zone
- X (unshaded)
- Chance of flooding over 30 yrs
- 0.0%
- Est. flood insurance / yr
- $473 – $860
Fire risk 3/10 · Minor
- Est. fire insurance / yr
- $691 – $1,283
Heat risk 6/10 · Moderate
- Hot days now (above 98°F)
- 7 days/yr
- Hot days in 30 yrs
- 15 days/yr
Wind risk 6/10 · Moderate
- Chance of severe wind over 30 yrs
- 27.0%
Air-quality risk 4/10 · Minor
- Unhealthy air days now
- 6 days/yr
- Unhealthy air days in 30 yrs
- 7 days/yr
Risk factors via First Street. Map © Google.
Why this score? — see what drove the C grade
The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).
- Cash flow +22.1/30.0
- Schools +7.6/10.0
- ARV discount +7.5/15.0
- DSCR +7.1/10.0
- 1% rule +5.8/10.0
- Livability +4.0/5.0
- Rent growth +2.5/5.0
- Condition / age +2.5/5.0
- Appreciation +0.0/10.0
$288,000
🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence
Listing remarks MLS
Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate.Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr,Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks,30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk,Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr.Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs, Additional information: Appearance:Clean/Nice,Interior Features:Efficiency Kitchen
Key facts
- Laundry facilities
- L shaped dining room
- Hardwood floors
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Neighborhood map
What this means for you Summary
Snapshot
- This is a 1-bed/1.0-bath condo listed at $288k.
Deal economics
- At list price, monthly cash flow is $464 ($6k/yr) — positive.
- The deal already cash-flows at list — no discount required.
- Meets the 1% rule at list price ($3k rent vs $288k).
- Recommended offer: $284k (1.5% below list) — sets the bar for market timing.
Location & tenants
- Location reads 80/100 on livability (#121 in NY, #1,966 nationally) — a professional / high-income tenant draw. Strengths: crime A+, commute A+, employment A+; Watch: cost of living F.
- Great Neck Union Free School District (suburban): math 86% / reading 83% proficiency, ranked #30 of 590 in NY (top 5%) — strong family-tenant draw, lease renewals of 3-5y typical; only 9% free/reduced lunch — higher-income household profile.
- Zoned schools: Saddle Rock School (math 87% / reading 82%, grade A+, #93 of 2,108 statewide, top 6%, 542 students, 16% FRL); Great Neck South Middle School (math 79% / reading 81%, grade A+, #28 of 729 statewide, top 4%, 861 students, 23% FRL); Great Neck South High School (math 100% / reading 92%, grade A+, #71 of 1,100 statewide, top 7%, 1,262 students, 0% FRL) — zoned schools at 13% FRL track the district average.
- Market conditions: 200 active listings in the ZIP; 16 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals at typical pace (median 25d on market — plan ~3-4 weeks tenant-placement turnaround); high-income renter base; 824 units permitted in Nassau County in 2024 (153 in 5+ unit buildings).
- This rent runs 31% of the median local income ($120k/yr) — at the standard rent-burdened threshold; future hikes will face affordability resistance.
Forward outlook
- Local home prices are declining (-3.0%/yr); year-one equity from $2k of loan paydown is wiped out by about $9k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
- Nassau County population projected at +7% by 2050 — modest demand growth; plan on rents tracking national, not racing it.
Negotiation context
- It's been on market 16 days — a 2% lower offer ($284k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
- 5 sale attempts since 14y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
- Current owner paid $130k; list at $288k implies a 122% gain — meaningful room to come down on a strong offer.
Risks & watch-outs
- Climate carrying-cost: major wind risk, 27% chance of damaging wind over 30y; extreme-heat days projected 7→15/yr by 2055 (HVAC capex compounding) — expect insurance premiums to compound above CPI over the hold.
Questions for the listing agent
- Built in 1960 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
- Any open or pending special assessments — roof, HVAC, plumbing, elevator, façade? What's the per-unit balance and payoff schedule, and is the seller paying it off at close or rolling it to the buyer?
- Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
- Schools are B-rated — typically a magnet for longer-tenancy family renters. What's the average tenant stay here, and is there a school-zone premium baked into asking?
- What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
- What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
- How much new apartment / multifamily construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply (>2% of stock underway) typically softens rents 12–24 months out; light construction supports rent growth.
Investment metrics
- 1% rule
- 1.08% ✓
- Cap rate
- 8.23%
- Cash-on-cash
- 6.90%
- DSCR
- 1.31
- GRM
- 7.7
CMA / ARV
No comps found within radius.
Projected returns pro-forma
-3.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon
- IRR
- -5.7%
- Equity multiple
- 0.79×
- Total profit
- $-17,075
- Equity at exit
- $42,942
- IRR
- 4.0%
- Equity multiple
- 1.29×
- Total profit
- $23,368
- Equity at exit
- $24,901
Cash invested: $80,640 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.
Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology
- Overall (STATE)
- 15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
- State New York
- 15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
- County
- — inherits STATE
- City
- — inherits STATE
ZIP-level market 11021
- Active inventory
- 200
- Price-to-rent
- 7.7×
Monthly cashflow live
- Estimated rent
- $3,107 high interval (Pro) →
- Mortgage (P&I)
- −$1,510
- Tax est. 1.5%
- −$360 /mo · $4,320/yr
- Insurance
- −$120
- HOA
- −$0
- Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
- −$652
- Net cashflow
- $464
Break-even live
Sensitivity live
| Price | -10% $663 | -5% $563 | +0% $464 | +5% $364 | +10% $265 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rent | -10% $218 | -5% $341 | +0% $464 | +5% $587 | +10% $709 |
| Rate | -1.0pp $609 | -0.5pp $537 | base $464 | +0.5pp $389 | +1.0pp $313 |
UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt
Financing live
Cash to close
- Down payment
- $72,000
- Closing costs
- $8,640
- Reserves months
- —
- Total cash needed
- —
Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live
Conventional
25% down · 7.5% · 30yr
- Down + closing
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- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
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- DSCR
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- Eligible?
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Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.
DSCR
20% down · 8.5% · 30yr
- Down + closing
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- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
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- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
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No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.
Hard money
10% down · 12.0% · 12mo
- Down + closing
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- Monthly P&I
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- Monthly cashflow
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- DSCR
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- Eligible?
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Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.
Rent comps 16 comps
| Address | Beds | Baths | Sqft | Rent | $/sqft | DOM | Units | Dist |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 37 Spruce St Unit 2 Great Neck, NY | 2.0 | 1.0 | 900 | $3,500 | $3.89 | 44d | 1 | 0.25mi |
| 12 Welwyn Rd Unit 2P Great Neck Plaza, NY | 2.0 | 1.0 | 795 | $2,735 | $3.44 | 45d | 1 | 0.25mi |
| 17 Schenck Ave Unit 3B Great Neck Plaza, NY | 1.0 | 1.0 | 700 | $2,295 | $3.28 | 13d | 1 | 0.28mi |
| 11 Schenck Ave Unit 2D Great Neck Plaza, NY | 1.0 | 1.0 | 750 | $2,200 | $2.93 | 44d | 1 | 0.31mi |
| 261 Schenck Ave Unit 2nd Floor Great Neck, NY | 2.0 | 1.0 | 1000 | $3,500 | $3.50 | 25d | 1 | 0.49mi |
| 261 Schenck Ave Unit 1st Floor Great Neck, NY | 2.0 | 1.0 | 975 | $3,700 | $3.79 | 25d | 1 | 0.49mi |
| 70 Knightsbridge Rd Unit 3F Great Neck Plaza, NY | 2.0 | 1.0 | 850 | $3,450 | $4.06 | 44d | 1 | 0.49mi |
| 60 Knightsbridge Rd Unit 3F Great Neck Plaza, NY | 2.0 | 1.0 | 850 | $3,550 | $4.18 | 5d | 1 | 0.51mi |
| 7 Bond St Unit 3J Great Neck, NY | 1.0 | 1.0 | 650 | $2,800 | $4.31 | 20d | 1 | 0.51mi |
| 50 Knightsbridge Rd Unit 2B Great Neck Plaza, NY | 2.0 | 1.0 | 850 | $3,450 | $4.06 | 5d | 1 | 0.53mi |
| 16 Stoner Ave Unit 2G Great Neck, NY | 1.0 | 1.0 | 700 | $2,800 | $4.00 | 44d | 1 | 0.59mi |
| 4 Maple Dr Apt 6H Great Neck, NY | 1.0 | 1.0 | 900 | $2,300 | $2.56 | 44d | 1 | 0.60mi |
| 141 Great Neck Rd Unit 2G Great Neck, NY | 2.0 | 1.5 | 1000 | $4,250 | $4.25 | 3d | 1 | 0.61mi |
| 4 Chelsea Pl Apt 3F Great Neck, NY | 2.0 | 2.0 | 900 | $4,600 | $5.11 | 25d | 1 | 0.75mi |
| 240 E Shore Rd Great Neck, NY | 3.0 | 1.0–2.5 | 999 | $4,770 | $4.77 | 2d | 1 | 0.95mi |
| 4212 Marathon Pkwy Little Neck, NY | 1.0 | 1.0 | 550 | $2,375 | $4.32 | 25d | 1 | 1.41mi |
HOA detail condo
- Monthly dues
- $0 · $0/yr
- Likely covers
- waterpool
- Assessments
- None detected in remarks — confirm with the listing agent.
Listing history 14 events
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2026-03-30status Pending
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2026-03-11$288,000 Active
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2014-01-09soldstatus $130,000 470-char remark
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Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs
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2014-01-09soldstatus $130,000 Closed 392-char remark
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Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs
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2013-10-04status Under Contract 392-char remark
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Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs
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2013-09-11status Listing Extended 392-char remark
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Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs
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2013-09-11historical 392-char remark
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Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs
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2013-08-08price $139,900 392-char remark
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Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs
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2013-08-05price $139,000 Price Change 392-char remark
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Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs
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2013-05-14price $145,000 Price Change 392-char remark
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Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs
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2013-03-01$155,000 New 392-char remark
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Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate.Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr,Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks,30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk,Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr.Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs, Additional information: Appearance:Clean/Nice,Interior Features:Efficiency Kitchen
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2013-03-01$139,900 470-char remark
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Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate.Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr,Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks,30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk,Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr.Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs, Additional information: Appearance:Clean/Nice,Interior Features:Efficiency Kitchen
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2013-02-10historical
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2012-10-10$165,000
ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot
backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.
Climate risk First Street
- Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
- Wildfire 3/10 Moderate
- Heat 6/10 Major 7 d/yr ≥98°F today · 15 d/yr by 30 yrs out
- Wind 6/10 Major 27% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
- Air quality 4/10 Moderate 6 unhealthy d/yr today · 7 by 30 yrs out
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Taxation est. · year 1
- Rental income
- $37,279
- − Mortgage interest
- −$16,132
- − Property taxes
- −$4,320
- − Insurance
- −$1,440
- − Repairs & maintenance
- −$2,982
- − Management
- −$2,982
- − Depreciation
- −$8,378
- Taxable income
- $1,044
- Est. tax owed @ 24.0%
- −$251
- After-tax cash flow
- $5,316/yr
For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.
Schools (NCES district)
- District
- Great Neck Union Free School District
- NCES district ID
- 3612510
- Math proficiency
- 86% ▬ 0.00%
- Reading proficiency
- 83% ▬ 0.00%
- Median HH income
- $99,939
- Composite
- 76.19/100
- National rank
- #111
- State rank
- #30 of 590 in NY
Livability — Thomaston
- Score
- 80/100
- State rank
- #121
- US rank
- #1966
Category grades
Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.
Census & demographics
- Census place
- Thomaston, NY
- County
- Nassau County · 653,051 people
- Metro
- New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA
- Population (ZIP)
- 19,783
- Household income
- $120,230
- Rent vs Own
- Severe rent burden
- 601.0
Population outlook (Nassau County) Hauer SSP2
- Today (2025)
- 1,409,302 people
- By 2030
- 1,431,482 · +1.6%
- By 2040
- 1,471,607 · +4.4%
- By 2050
- 1,502,845 · +6.6%
- By 2075
- 1,575,403 · +11.8%
- By 2100
- 1,554,356 · +10.3%
Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023
- Neighborhood character
- Diverse neighborhood (Simpson 0.59)
- Race & ethnicity
- White 56% Asian 31% Hispanic / Latino 8% Two or more races 5% Black 1%
- Hispanic origin (detail)
- Common ancestry
- Scotch-Irish 5% Romanian 4% Subsaharan African 1%
- Foreign-born
- 36% · China, Canada, South Korea
- Languages at home
- 54% English-only · Chinese 16% Other Indo-European 10% Spanish 7%
Political lean MEDSL · Nassau
- 2024 margin
- Toss-up / Even · D 47.9% · R 52.1%
- 2008→2024 swing
- -12.6pp toward R · 2008: 8.4pp · 2024: -4.2pp
- All cycles
- 2024: R+4.2 2020: D+9.5 2016: D+5.3 2012: D+6.7 2008: D+8.4
Not yet ingested
- Civics
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Market trends
- HPI YoY
- ▼ -736.84%
- Current HPI
- 254.751
- Rent YoY
- —
- Metro
- New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA
- State GDP YoY
- ▲ 2.60%
- F500 in state
- 92
Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)
| Industry | F500 HQs | Revenue |
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| Financial Services | 10 | $950B |
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| Consumer Goods | 9 | $162B |
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| Insurance | 4 | $225B |
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| Telecommunications | 2 | $144B |
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| Pharmaceuticals | 2 | $112B |
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| Media / Entertainment | 2 | $69B |
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Price history
+74.5% since first listed14 events — show timeline
- 2026-03-30 Pending — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2026-03-11 Listed $288,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2014-01-09 Sold (MLS) $130,000 MLSLI
- 2014-01-09 Sold (MLS) $130,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2013-10-04 Pending — MLSLI
- 2013-09-11 Relisted — MLSLI
- 2013-09-11 Delisted — MLSLI
- 2013-08-08 Price Changed $139,900 MLSLI
- 2013-08-05 Price Changed $139,000 MLSLI
- 2013-05-14 Price Changed $145,000 MLSLI
- 2013-03-01 Listed $155,000 MLSLI
- 2013-03-01 Listed $139,900 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2013-02-10 Listing Removed — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2012-10-10 Listed $165,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
Cash-flow waterfall
monthlySold comps — $/sqft
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