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185 South Midddle Neck Rd Unit 1P
C Composite 59.08
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  • Cash flow +22.1/30.0
  • Schools +7.6/10.0
  • ARV discount +7.5/15.0
  • DSCR +7.1/10.0
  • 1% rule +5.8/10.0
  • Livability +4.0/5.0
  • Rent growth +2.5/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • Appreciation +0.0/10.0

$288,000

185 South Midddle Neck Rd Unit 1P · Thomaston, NY 11021
1 bd · 1.0 ba · 752 sqft · Condo · 16 Days on market
Built 1960

🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Listing remarks MLS

Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate.Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr,Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks,30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk,Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr.Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs, Additional information: Appearance:Clean/Nice,Interior Features:Efficiency Kitchen

Key facts

  • Laundry facilities
  • L shaped dining room
  • Hardwood floors

Tags

L SHAPED DINING ROOMHARDWOOD FLOORSLAUNDRY FACILITIESGREAT NECK LIRR STATIONVIBRANT DOWNTOWN GREAT NECK

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 1-bed/1.0-bath condo listed at $288k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $464 ($6k/yr) — positive.
  • The deal already cash-flows at list — no discount required.
  • Meets the 1% rule at list price ($3k rent vs $288k).
  • Recommended offer: $284k (1.5% below list) — sets the bar for market timing.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 80/100 on livability (#121 in NY, #1,966 nationally) — a professional / high-income tenant draw. Strengths: crime A+, commute A+, employment A+; Watch: cost of living F.
  • Great Neck Union Free School District (suburban): math 86% / reading 83% proficiency, ranked #30 of 590 in NY (top 5%) — strong family-tenant draw, lease renewals of 3-5y typical; only 9% free/reduced lunch — higher-income household profile.
  • Zoned schools: Saddle Rock School (math 87% / reading 82%, grade A+, #93 of 2,108 statewide, top 6%, 542 students, 16% FRL); Great Neck South Middle School (math 79% / reading 81%, grade A+, #28 of 729 statewide, top 4%, 861 students, 23% FRL); Great Neck South High School (math 100% / reading 92%, grade A+, #71 of 1,100 statewide, top 7%, 1,262 students, 0% FRL) — zoned schools at 13% FRL track the district average.
  • Market conditions: 200 active listings in the ZIP; 16 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals at typical pace (median 25d on market — plan ~3-4 weeks tenant-placement turnaround); high-income renter base; 824 units permitted in Nassau County in 2024 (153 in 5+ unit buildings).
  • This rent runs 31% of the median local income ($120k/yr) — at the standard rent-burdened threshold; future hikes will face affordability resistance.

Forward outlook

  • Local home prices are declining (-3.0%/yr); year-one equity from $2k of loan paydown is wiped out by about $9k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
  • Nassau County population projected at +7% by 2050 — modest demand growth; plan on rents tracking national, not racing it.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 16 days — a 2% lower offer ($284k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 5 sale attempts since 14y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
  • Current owner paid $130k; list at $288k implies a 122% gain — meaningful room to come down on a strong offer.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Climate carrying-cost: major wind risk, 27% chance of damaging wind over 30y; extreme-heat days projected 7→15/yr by 2055 (HVAC capex compounding) — expect insurance premiums to compound above CPI over the hold.
Recommended offer $283,680 (1.5% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. Built in 1960 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
  2. Any open or pending special assessments — roof, HVAC, plumbing, elevator, façade? What's the per-unit balance and payoff schedule, and is the seller paying it off at close or rolling it to the buyer?
  3. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  4. Schools are B-rated — typically a magnet for longer-tenancy family renters. What's the average tenant stay here, and is there a school-zone premium baked into asking?
  5. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  6. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  7. How much new apartment / multifamily construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply (>2% of stock underway) typically softens rents 12–24 months out; light construction supports rent growth.

Investment metrics

1% rule
1.08%
Cap rate
8.23%
Cash-on-cash
6.90%
DSCR
1.31
GRM
7.7

CMA / ARV

No comps found within radius.

Projected returns pro-forma

-3.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
-5.7%
Equity multiple
0.79×
Total profit
$-17,075
Equity at exit
$42,942
10-year hold
IRR
4.0%
Equity multiple
1.29×
Total profit
$23,368
Equity at exit
$24,901

Cash invested: $80,640 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
State New York
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
NYC rent stabilization (~1M units); 2019 HSTPA strengthened tenant rights; courts deeply backlogged.

ZIP-level market 11021

Active inventory
200
Price-to-rent
7.7×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$3,107 high interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$1,510
Tax est. 1.5%
$360 /mo · $4,320/yr
Insurance
$120
HOA
$0
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$652
Net cashflow
$464

Break-even live

Break-even rent $2,519
Max offer price $288,000
Occupancy floor 80%

Sensitivity live

Price -10% $663 -5% $563 +0% $464 +5% $364 +10% $265
Rent -10% $218 -5% $341 +0% $464 +5% $587 +10% $709
Rate -1.0pp $609 -0.5pp $537 base $464 +0.5pp $389 +1.0pp $313

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$72,000
Closing costs
$8,640
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Rent comps 16 comps

AddressBedsBaths SqftRent$/sqft DOM Units Dist
37 Spruce St Unit 2 Great Neck, NY 2.0 1.0 900 $3,500 $3.89 44d 1 0.25mi
12 Welwyn Rd Unit 2P Great Neck Plaza, NY 2.0 1.0 795 $2,735 $3.44 45d 1 0.25mi
17 Schenck Ave Unit 3B Great Neck Plaza, NY 1.0 1.0 700 $2,295 $3.28 13d 1 0.28mi
11 Schenck Ave Unit 2D Great Neck Plaza, NY 1.0 1.0 750 $2,200 $2.93 44d 1 0.31mi
261 Schenck Ave Unit 2nd Floor Great Neck, NY 2.0 1.0 1000 $3,500 $3.50 25d 1 0.49mi
261 Schenck Ave Unit 1st Floor Great Neck, NY 2.0 1.0 975 $3,700 $3.79 25d 1 0.49mi
70 Knightsbridge Rd Unit 3F Great Neck Plaza, NY 2.0 1.0 850 $3,450 $4.06 44d 1 0.49mi
60 Knightsbridge Rd Unit 3F Great Neck Plaza, NY 2.0 1.0 850 $3,550 $4.18 5d 1 0.51mi
7 Bond St Unit 3J Great Neck, NY 1.0 1.0 650 $2,800 $4.31 20d 1 0.51mi
50 Knightsbridge Rd Unit 2B Great Neck Plaza, NY 2.0 1.0 850 $3,450 $4.06 5d 1 0.53mi
16 Stoner Ave Unit 2G Great Neck, NY 1.0 1.0 700 $2,800 $4.00 44d 1 0.59mi
4 Maple Dr Apt 6H Great Neck, NY 1.0 1.0 900 $2,300 $2.56 44d 1 0.60mi
141 Great Neck Rd Unit 2G Great Neck, NY 2.0 1.5 1000 $4,250 $4.25 3d 1 0.61mi
4 Chelsea Pl Apt 3F Great Neck, NY 2.0 2.0 900 $4,600 $5.11 25d 1 0.75mi
240 E Shore Rd Great Neck, NY 3.0 1.0–2.5 999 $4,770 $4.77 2d 1 0.95mi
4212 Marathon Pkwy Little Neck, NY 1.0 1.0 550 $2,375 $4.32 25d 1 1.41mi

HOA detail condo

Monthly dues
$0 · $0/yr
Likely covers
waterpool
Assessments
None detected in remarks — confirm with the listing agent.

Listing history 14 events

  1. 2026-03-30
    status Pending
  2. 2026-03-11
    listed $288,000 Active
  3. 2014-01-09
    soldstatus $130,000 470-char remark
    Show marketing remark (392 chars)

    Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs

  4. 2014-01-09
    soldstatus $130,000 Closed 392-char remark
    Show marketing remark (392 chars)

    Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs

  5. 2013-10-04
    status Under Contract 392-char remark
    Show marketing remark (392 chars)

    Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs

  6. 2013-09-11
    status Listing Extended 392-char remark
    Show marketing remark (392 chars)

    Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs

  7. 2013-09-11
    historical 392-char remark
    Show marketing remark (392 chars)

    Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs

  8. 2013-08-08
    price $139,900 392-char remark
    Show marketing remark (392 chars)

    Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs

  9. 2013-08-05
    price $139,000 Price Change 392-char remark
    Show marketing remark (392 chars)

    Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs

  10. 2013-05-14
    price $145,000 Price Change 392-char remark
    Show marketing remark (392 chars)

    Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate. Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr, Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks, 30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk, Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/ Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr. Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs

  11. 2013-03-01
    listed $155,000 New 392-char remark
    Show marketing remark (470 chars)

    Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate.Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr,Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks,30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk,Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr.Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs, Additional information: Appearance:Clean/Nice,Interior Features:Efficiency Kitchen

  12. 2013-03-01
    listed $139,900 470-char remark
    Show marketing remark (470 chars)

    Bonus! 6 Mnth Mntenance Rebate.Frsh Paint, Refnishd Flrs & New Light Fxtrs. Close To Rr,Bus Sta & Town. Grt Nk Prk Systm's 19 Parks,30+ Tennis Crts, Olympic Pool/Water Prk,Ice Skating Rnk, Waterfont Park W/Boat Mooring/Club House. Bldg Has Guest Prkng, New Lndry On Flr.Grge $60,Out $30.$24.57 Cap Imprv Assment Til 12/2015. Buyers Pay $5.Sh Flp Tx 295 Shares & Closng Costs, Additional information: Appearance:Clean/Nice,Interior Features:Efficiency Kitchen

  13. 2013-02-10
    historical
  14. 2012-10-10
    listed $165,000

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 3/10 Moderate
  • 🌡 Heat 6/10 Major 7 d/yr ≥98°F today · 15 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 6/10 Major 27% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
  • 🫁 Air quality 4/10 Moderate 6 unhealthy d/yr today · 7 by 30 yrs out

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$37,279
− Mortgage interest
−$16,132
− Property taxes
−$4,320
− Insurance
−$1,440
− Repairs & maintenance
−$2,982
− Management
−$2,982
− Depreciation
−$8,378
Taxable income
$1,044
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax owed @ 24.0%
−$251
After-tax cash flow
$5,316/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Great Neck Union Free School District
NCES district ID
3612510
Math proficiency
86% ▬ 0.00%
Reading proficiency
83% ▬ 0.00%
Median HH income
$99,939
Composite
76.19/100
National rank
#111
State rank
#30 of 590 in NY

Livability — Thomaston

Score
80/100
State rank
#121
US rank
#1966

Category grades

Amenities B+ Commute A+ Cost of living F Crime A+ Employment A+ Housing C Health & safety A User ratings A

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
Thomaston, NY
County
Nassau County · 653,051 people
Metro
New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA
Population (ZIP)
19,783
Household income
$120,230
Rent vs Own
29.6% rent · 70.4% own
Severe rent burden
601.0

Population outlook (Nassau County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
1,409,302 people
By 2030
1,431,482 · +1.6%
By 2040
1,471,607 · +4.4%
By 2050
1,502,845 · +6.6%
By 2075
1,575,403 · +11.8%
By 2100
1,554,356 · +10.3%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Diverse neighborhood (Simpson 0.59)
Race & ethnicity
White 56% Asian 31% Hispanic / Latino 8% Two or more races 5% Black 1%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Common ancestry
Scotch-Irish 5% Romanian 4% Subsaharan African 1%
Foreign-born
36% · China, Canada, South Korea
Languages at home
54% English-only · Chinese 16% Other Indo-European 10% Spanish 7%

Political lean MEDSL · Nassau

2024 margin
Toss-up / Even · D 47.9% · R 52.1%
2008→2024 swing
-12.6pp toward R · 2008: 8.4pp · 2024: -4.2pp
All cycles
2024: R+4.2 2020: D+9.5 2016: D+5.3 2012: D+6.7 2008: D+8.4

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▼ -736.84%
Current HPI
254.751
Rent YoY
Metro
New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA
State GDP YoY
▲ 2.60%
F500 in state
92

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

+74.5% since first listed
14 events — show timeline
  • 2026-03-30 Pending OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2026-03-11 Listed $288,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2014-01-09 Sold (MLS) $130,000 MLSLI
  • 2014-01-09 Sold (MLS) $130,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2013-10-04 Pending MLSLI
  • 2013-09-11 Relisted MLSLI
  • 2013-09-11 Delisted MLSLI
  • 2013-08-08 Price Changed $139,900 MLSLI
  • 2013-08-05 Price Changed $139,000 MLSLI
  • 2013-05-14 Price Changed $145,000 MLSLI
  • 2013-03-01 Listed $155,000 MLSLI
  • 2013-03-01 Listed $139,900 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2013-02-10 Listing Removed OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2012-10-10 Listed $165,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid

Cash-flow waterfall

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Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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