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12517 Timber Creek Dr #2
D Composite 41.0
Why this score? — see what drove the D grade

The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • Cash flow +12.5/30.0
  • Schools +6.4/10.0
  • Livability +4.2/5.0
  • Rent growth +4.1/5.0
  • 1% rule +3.8/10.0
  • ARV discount +3.8/15.0
  • DSCR +3.7/10.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • Appreciation +0.0/10.0

$265,000

12517 Timber Creek Dr #2 · Carmel, IN 46032
3 bd · 2.0 ba · 1,070 sqft · Condo public records · 131 Days on market
Built 2025 $248/sqft · 8% above area Est $245k · 8% over $256/mo HOA · 11% of rent

🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Listing remarks MLS

Bring your picky buyers - everything is brand spanking new and under warranty! The pictures do speak for themselves but you can't have NEW smell over electronic screen :-) Please schedule a showing to see for yourself! This location in Carmel that is so perfect that you can walk to Palladium for concerts and Farmers market for groceries. Both bedrooms have pond view as well as your terrace. There are great amenities in this community - pool (outside to swim) and sauna as well as work/out lift area, POOL to play pool and club house for the parties. This unit have a storage area(inside the building) and one car garage with one designated parking space. There is guest parking also.

Key facts

  • Pond view
  • Community pool
  • Sauna

Tags

POND VIEWCOMMUNITY POOLSAUNAWORKOUT AREACLUB HOUSESTORAGE AREA

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 3-bed/2.0-bath condo listed at $265k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $-38 ($-459/yr) — negative.
  • To cash-flow at today's rent, offer at most $258k (2.6% below list).
  • To meet the 1% rule (rent ≥ 1% of price), the offer needs to be $232k (12.4% below list).
  • Recommended offer: $232k (12.4% below list) — sets the bar for 1% rule.
  • Cap rate 6.1% vs local median 2.7% in Carmel — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 84/100 on livability (#7 in IN, #726 nationally) — a professional / high-income tenant draw. Strengths: crime A+, amenities A+, employment A+; Watch: commute F.
  • Carmel Clay Schools (urban): math 68% / reading 70% proficiency, ranked #1 of 301 in IN (top 0%) — acceptable for families but not a draw, mixed tenant base, ~2y average lease; only 7% free/reduced lunch — higher-income household profile.
  • Zoned schools: Carmel Middle School (math 46% / reading 61%, grade C+, #32 of 330 statewide, top 10%, 1,064 students, 20% FRL); Carmel High School (math 77% / reading 90%, grade A, #3 of 369 statewide, top 1%, 5,192 students, 13% FRL).
  • Market conditions: Rents rising fast (+6.5%/yr); 346 active listings in the ZIP; 38 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals leasing fast (median 0d on market — plan ~1-2 weeks tenant-placement turnaround); high-income renter base; 4,661 units permitted in Hamilton County in 2024 (1,528 in 5+ unit buildings).

Forward outlook

  • Local home prices are declining (-3.0%/yr); year-one equity from $2k of loan paydown is wiped out by about $8k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
  • Hamilton County population projected at +44% by 2050 — long-run rental-demand tailwind backs the buy-and-hold thesis.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 131 days — a 12% lower offer ($233k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 3 sale attempts since 26y ago; this cycle's ask has dropped $23k (8%) from the opening price — seller is motivated, your offer sets the floor, not the list.
  • Current owner paid $80k; list at $265k implies a 231% gain — meaningful room to come down on a strong offer.
Recommended offer $232,084 (12.4% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
  2. It's been on market 131 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 12% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
  3. What does the HOA fee cover, when was the last increase, and are there any pending special assessments or reserve-fund shortfalls?
  4. Any open or pending special assessments — roof, HVAC, plumbing, elevator, façade? What's the per-unit balance and payoff schedule, and is the seller paying it off at close or rolling it to the buyer?
  5. Why hasn't it sold? Are there any deal-killer items the seller is aware of (foundation, flood, title, zoning, code violations)?
  6. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  7. Schools are A-rated — typically a magnet for longer-tenancy family renters. What's the average tenant stay here, and is there a school-zone premium baked into asking?
  8. The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
  9. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  10. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  11. How much new apartment / multifamily construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply (>2% of stock underway) typically softens rents 12–24 months out; light construction supports rent growth.

Investment metrics

1% rule
0.88%
Cap rate
6.12%
Cash-on-cash
-0.62%
DSCR
0.97
GRM
9.5

CMA / ARV

ARV (median comp)
$245,028
List price
$265,000
Delta
8.15%
Verdict
FAIR
Comps
20 within 1.0 mi

Projected returns pro-forma

-3.0% appreciation · 6.47% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
-13.4%
Equity multiple
0.50×
Total profit
$-36,934
Equity at exit
$39,512
10-year hold
IRR
0.3%
Equity multiple
1.03×
Total profit
$1,898
Equity at exit
$22,912

Cash invested: $74,200 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
90 Strongly Landlord-Friendly
State Indiana
90 Strongly Landlord-Friendly · R+11
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
10-day pay-or-quit; landlord-favorable; preempted.

ZIP-level market 46032

Rents YoY
6.5%
Active inventory
346
Price-to-rent
9.5×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$2,321 high interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$1,390
Tax from tax record
$116 /mo · $1,387/yr
Insurance
$110
HOA
$256
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$487
Net cashflow
$-38

Break-even live

Break-even rent $2,369
Max offer price $258,240
Occupancy floor 97%

Sensitivity live

Price -10% $112 -5% $37 +0% $-38 +5% $-113 +10% $-188
Rent -10% $-222 -5% $-130 +0% $-38 +5% $53 +10% $145
Rate -1.0pp $95 -0.5pp $29 base $-38 +0.5pp $-107 +1.0pp $-177

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$66,250
Closing costs
$7,950
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Rent comps 38 comps

AddressBedsBaths SqftRent$/sqft DOM Units Dist
1059 Timber Creek Dr Carmel, IN 3.0 2.0 1379 $1,850 $1.34 45d 1 0.04mi
12484 Breaklines St Carmel, IN 1.0–3.0 1.0–2.0 1045 $2,059 $1.97 0d 17 0.11mi
675 Beacon St Carmel, IN 1.0–3.0 1.0–2.5 1322 $3,295 $2.49 0d 18 0.20mi
358 Dartmouth St Carmel, IN 2.0 2.0 1188 $2,095 $1.76 5d 1 0.25mi
301 American Way N Carmel, IN 1.0–3.0 1.0–2.0 1167 $2,980 $2.55 0d 1 0.39mi
881 3rd Ave SW Carmel, IN 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 1135 $1,999 $1.76 0d 2 0.44mi
880 Monon Green Blvd Carmel, IN 3.0 1.0–2.0 1044 $3,235 $3.10 45d 5 0.52mi
400 Industrial Dr Carmel, IN 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.5 1175 $3,570 $3.04 0d 58 0.53mi
947 Wickham Ct #206 Carmel, IN 2.0 2.0 1072 $1,650 $1.54 5d 1 0.55mi
750 Veterans Way Carmel, IN 1.0–3.0 1.0–2.5 1144 $4,282 $3.74 0d 1 0.56mi
300 Providence Blvd Carmel, IN 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.5 990 $2,049 $2.07 0d 35 0.57mi
591 Monon Blvd Carmel, IN 3.0 1.0–2.0 791 $2,951 $3.73 0d 23 0.60mi
720 S Rangeline Rd Carmel, IN 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 1090 $3,345 $3.07 0d 1 0.63mi
833 W Main St Apt 301 Carmel, IN 2.0 2.0 1456 $2,640 $1.81 0d 1 0.63mi
833 W Main St Carmel, IN 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 1304 $3,485 $2.67 9d 23 0.63mi
530 W Main St Carmel, IN 2.0 1.0–1.5 875 $1,412 $1.61 0d 1 0.71mi
1225 Veterans Way Carmel, IN 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 926 $2,478 $2.68 0d 11 0.75mi
1111 W Main St Carmel, IN 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 932 $3,224 $3.46 0d 8 0.76mi
760 Walkabout Cir E Carmel, IN 2.0 2.0 569 $2,233 $3.92 0d 23 0.78mi
25 Florence St Carmel, IN 2.0 2.5 1338 $2,249 $1.68 12d 1 0.82mi
12415 N Pennsylvania St Carmel, IN 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 940 $1,824 $1.94 0d 19 0.85mi
110 W Main St Carmel, IN 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 964 $2,486 $2.58 0d 13 0.85mi
231 Lark Dr #3 Carmel, IN 2.0 1.0 925 $1,195 $1.29 3d 1 0.90mi
231 Lark Dr #3 Carmel, IN 2.0 1.0 925 $1,195 $1.29 0d 1 0.90mi
110 Bryn Mawr Ln Unit T-209 Carmel, IN 3.0 1.5 1280 $2,026 $1.58 0d 1 0.97mi
110 Bryn Mawr Ln Unit 221-08 Carmel, IN 2.0 1.5 876 $1,499 $1.71 0d 1 0.97mi
110 Bryn Mawr Ln Unit 220-06 Carmel, IN 2.0 2.0 876 $1,499 $1.71 0d 1 0.97mi
110 Bryn Mawr Ln Unit 221-03 Carmel, IN 2.0 1.5 876 $1,499 $1.71 22d 1 0.97mi
110 Bryn Mawr Ln Unit 220-03 Carmel, IN 2.0 2.0 876 $1,449 $1.65 0d 1 0.97mi
110 Bryn Mawr Ln Unit T-203 Carmel, IN 3.0 1.5 1280 $2,199 $1.72 9d 1 0.97mi
221 E Main St Carmel, IN 1.0–3.0 1.0–2.0 1010 $2,099 $2.08 0d 8 1.00mi
1685 E 116th St Carmel, IN 2.0 1.0–2.0 892 $2,475 $2.77 0d 26 1.08mi
1825 Jefferson Dr W Carmel, IN 1.0–3.0 1.0–2.5 1350 $2,575 $1.91 0d 23 1.19mi
11405 Central Dr W Carmel, IN 4.0 2.0 1408 $2,600 $1.85 0d 1 1.20mi
13415 Highpointe Blvd Carmel, IN 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 794 $1,641 $2.07 0d 14 1.24mi
741 N Rangeline Rd Carmel, IN 2.0 1.0 850 $1,275 $1.50 0d 1 1.27mi
945 Mohawk Hills Dr Carmel, IN 1.0–3.0 1.0–2.5 1210 $1,937 $1.60 0d 34 1.34mi
525 End DR Carmel, IN 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 955 $2,380 $2.49 0d 14 1.38mi

HOA detail condo

Monthly dues
$256 · $3,072/yr
Likely covers
pool
Assessments
None detected in remarks — confirm with the listing agent.

Listing history 9 events

  1. 2026-05-18
    status Pending 701-char remark
    Show marketing remark (701 chars)

    Bring your picky buyers - everything is brand spanking new and under warranty! The pictures do speak for themselves but you can't have NEW smell over electronic screen :-) Please schedule a showing to see for yourself! This location in Carmel that is so perfect that you can walk to Palladium for concerts and Farmers market for groceries. Both bedrooms have pond view as well as your terrace. There are great amenities in this community - pool (outside to swim) and sauna as well as work/out lift area, POOL to play pool and club house for the parties. This unit have a storage area(inside the building) and one car garage with one designated parking space. There is guest parking also.

  2. 2026-04-28
    price $265,000 701-char remark
    Show marketing remark (701 chars)

    Bring your picky buyers - everything is brand spanking new and under warranty! The pictures do speak for themselves but you can't have NEW smell over electronic screen :-) Please schedule a showing to see for yourself! This location in Carmel that is so perfect that you can walk to Palladium for concerts and Farmers market for groceries. Both bedrooms have pond view as well as your terrace. There are great amenities in this community - pool (outside to swim) and sauna as well as work/out lift area, POOL to play pool and club house for the parties. This unit have a storage area(inside the building) and one car garage with one designated parking space. There is guest parking also.

  3. 2026-02-16
    price $275,000 701-char remark
    Show marketing remark (701 chars)

    Bring your picky buyers - everything is brand spanking new and under warranty! The pictures do speak for themselves but you can't have NEW smell over electronic screen :-) Please schedule a showing to see for yourself! This location in Carmel that is so perfect that you can walk to Palladium for concerts and Farmers market for groceries. Both bedrooms have pond view as well as your terrace. There are great amenities in this community - pool (outside to swim) and sauna as well as work/out lift area, POOL to play pool and club house for the parties. This unit have a storage area(inside the building) and one car garage with one designated parking space. There is guest parking also.

  4. 2026-01-07
    listed $288,000 Active 701-char remark
    Show marketing remark (701 chars)

    Bring your picky buyers - everything is brand spanking new and under warranty! The pictures do speak for themselves but you can't have NEW smell over electronic screen :-) Please schedule a showing to see for yourself! This location in Carmel that is so perfect that you can walk to Palladium for concerts and Farmers market for groceries. Both bedrooms have pond view as well as your terrace. There are great amenities in this community - pool (outside to swim) and sauna as well as work/out lift area, POOL to play pool and club house for the parties. This unit have a storage area(inside the building) and one car garage with one designated parking space. There is guest parking also.

  5. 2025-12-27
    historical
  6. 2025-10-09
    price $275,000
  7. 2025-09-15
    listed $282,000 Active
  8. 2000-12-15
    soldstatus $80,000
  9. 2000-10-17
    listed $82,900

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Tax reassessment forecast IN · Partial reset (capped growth)

Current annual tax
$1,387 · $116/mo
Projected year-2 tax
$1,820 · $152/mo
Expected delta
+$433/yr (+$36/mo · 31.2%)

ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 1/10 Low
  • 🌡 Heat 4/10 Moderate 7 d/yr ≥101°F today · 18 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 2/10 Low 0% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
  • 🫁 Air quality 4/10 Moderate 3 unhealthy d/yr today · 5 by 30 yrs out

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$27,850
− Mortgage interest
−$14,844
− Property taxes
−$1,387
− Insurance
−$1,325
− Repairs & maintenance
−$2,228
− Management
−$2,228
− HOA
−$3,072
− Depreciation
−$7,709
Taxable loss
−$4,944
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
+$1,186
After-tax cash flow
$727/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Carmel Clay Schools
NCES district ID
1801200
Math proficiency
68% ▼ -7.00%
Reading proficiency
70% ▼ -7.00%
Median HH income
$102,347
Composite
63.54/100
National rank
#608
State rank
#1 of 301 in IN

Livability — Carmel

Score
84/100
State rank
#7
US rank
#726

Category grades

Amenities A+ Commute F Cost of living C Crime A+ Employment A+ Housing A+ Health & safety B+ User ratings A-

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
Carmel, IN
County
Hamilton County · 337,479 people
City population
99,910
Metro
Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson, IN
Population (ZIP)
51,515
Household income
$132,085
Rent vs Own
33.5% rent · 66.5% own
Severe rent burden
1216.0

Population outlook (Hamilton County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
381,938 people
By 2030
417,496 · +9.3%
By 2040
486,684 · +27.4%
By 2050
549,805 · +44.0%
By 2075
687,078 · +79.9%
By 2100
754,495 · +97.5%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Predominantly White (77%)
Race & ethnicity
White 77% Asian 10% Two or more races 6% Hispanic / Latino 5% Black 4%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Mexican 2%
Common ancestry
Romanian 4% Lithuanian 3% Slovak 2%
Foreign-born
13% · Canada, China, South Korea
Languages at home
85% English-only · Other Indo-European 4% Spanish 3% Chinese 2%

Political lean MEDSL · Hamilton

2024 margin
Lean R (+6.1) · D 46.0% · R 52.1% · Other 1.9%
2008→2024 swing
+16.2pp toward D · 2008: -22.2pp · 2024: -6.1pp
All cycles
2024: R+6.1 2020: R+6.8 2016: R+19.6 2012: R+34.3 2008: R+22.2

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▼ -248.06%
Current HPI
221.9087
Rent YoY
▲ 6.47%
Metro
Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson, IN
State GDP YoY
▲ 2.90%
F500 in state
18

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in IN)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

+219.7% since first listed
9 events — show timeline
  • 2026-05-18 Pending MIBOR as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2026-04-28 Price Changed $265,000 MIBOR as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2026-02-16 Price Changed $275,000 MIBOR as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2026-01-07 Listed $288,000 MIBOR as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2025-12-27 Listing Removed MIBOR as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2025-10-09 Price Changed $275,000 MIBOR as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2025-09-15 Listed $282,000 MIBOR as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2000-12-15 Sold (MLS) $80,000 MIBOR as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2000-10-17 Listed $82,900 MIBOR as Distributed by MLS Grid

Property tax history

-1.2%/yr

Latest (2025): $1,387 · +125.9% YoY. Source: county tax records.

Cash-flow waterfall

monthly

Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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