12 Montrose Dr · Lake Carmel, NY
Flood risk 1/10 · Minimal
- FEMA flood zone
- X (unshaded)
- Chance of flooding over 30 yrs
- 0.0%
- Est. flood insurance / yr
- $507 – $1,088
Fire risk 4/10 · Minor
- Est. fire insurance / yr
- $691 – $1,283
Heat risk 4/10 · Minor
- Hot days now (above 96°F)
- 7 days/yr
- Hot days in 30 yrs
- 14 days/yr
Wind risk 4/10 · Minor
- Chance of severe wind over 30 yrs
- 18.0%
Air-quality risk 3/10 · Minor
- Unhealthy air days now
- 2 days/yr
- Unhealthy air days in 30 yrs
- 3 days/yr
Risk factors via First Street. Map © Google.
Why this score? — see what drove the D grade
The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).
- ARV discount +15.0/15.0
- Cash flow +7.5/30.0
- 1% rule +5.4/10.0
- Schools +5.0/10.0
- Livability +3.3/5.0
- Rent growth +2.5/5.0
- Condition / age +2.5/5.0
- DSCR +1.6/10.0
- Appreciation +0.0/10.0
$409,000
🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence
Listing remarks MLS
Country roads leads you to this solid two story house in a quiet neighborhood. It may require a little TLC but worth a look. Additional Information: HeatingFuel:Oil Above Ground,
Key facts
- 6,534 sq ft lot
- Built 1960
- Listed 46 days
Property features AI
Exterior
- Parking: Driveway
- Utilities: Electric service by NYSEG; Septic tank
- Home design: Single family residence; Two levels
- Construction: Frame construction
- Exterior features: Front yard
Interior
- Kitchen: Electric range; Microwave; Refrigerator
- Bedrooms: 4 rooms total (includes bedrooms and living spaces); Attic: full with pull-down stairs
- Flooring: Combination flooring
- Bathrooms: 2 full bathrooms
- Heating & cooling: Ductless cooling; Electric heating (additional/see remarks)
- Interior features: Other interior features; Patio
- Laundry & utility: Electricity connected
Neighborhood map
What this means for you Summary
Snapshot
- This is a 2-bed/1.0-bath single-family listed at $409k.
Deal economics
- At list price, monthly cash flow is $-510 ($-6k/yr) — negative.
- To cash-flow at today's rent, offer at most $372k (8.9% below list).
- Meets the 1% rule at list price ($4k rent vs $409k).
- Recommended offer: $372k (8.9% below list) — sets the bar for cash-flow.
- Cap rate 4.8% vs local median 2.3% in Lake Carmel — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.
Location & tenants
- Location reads 66/100 on livability (#650 in NY) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: employment A+, housing A+; Watch: amenities F, commute F, cost of living F.
- Carmel Central School District (suburban): math 46% / reading 63% proficiency, ranked #258 of 590 in NY (top 44%) — acceptable for families but not a draw, mixed tenant base, ~2y average lease; only 17% free/reduced lunch — higher-income household profile.
- Zoned schools: Matthew Paterson Elementary School (math 47% / reading 62%, grade C, #908 of 2,108 statewide, top 46%, 488 students, 41% FRL); George Fischer Middle School (math 21% / reading 56%, grade F, #437 of 729 statewide, top 60%, 1,130 students, 38% FRL); Carmel High School (math 97% / reading 87%, grade A+, #171 of 1,100 statewide, top 18%, 1,365 students, 36% FRL) — zoned schools average 38% FRL vs 17% district-wide (22 pts higher); higher-poverty schools than district average — tighter screening recommended.
- Market conditions: 233 active listings in the ZIP; 1 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; 142 units permitted in Putnam County in 2024 (75 in 5+ unit buildings).
Forward outlook
- Local home prices are declining (-3.0%/yr); year-one equity from $3k of loan paydown is wiped out by about $12k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
- Putnam County population projected to shrink 3% by 2050 — rents likely to lag national; underwrite the cash flow, not the appreciation.
Negotiation context
- It's been on market 46 days — a 3% lower offer ($397k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
- 8 sale attempts since 23y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
- Current owner paid $180k; list at $409k implies a 127% gain — meaningful room to come down on a strong offer.
Risks & watch-outs
- Watch-outs: property tax is 4.6% of price.
Questions for the listing agent
- What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
- It's been on market 46 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 9% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
- Built in 1960 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
- Property tax is high relative to price — has the assessment been appealed recently, and will the sale trigger a re-assessment?
- Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
- Schools are D-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
- The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
- What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
- What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
- How much new for-sale + rental construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply typically softens prices + rents 12–24 months out; constrained supply supports both.
Investment metrics
- 1% rule
- 1.04% ✓
- Cap rate
- 4.80%
- Cash-on-cash
- -5.34%
- DSCR
- 0.76
- GRM
- 8.0
CMA / ARV
- ARV (median comp)
- $511,109
- List price
- $409,000
- Delta
- -19.98%
- Verdict
- UNDERPRICED
- Comps
- 20 within 1.0 mi
Show comp detail 12 sales within ~0.75 mi
| Address | Dist | Beds/Ba | Sqft | Sold | Price | $/sf | Match |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 45 Woodland Dr | 0.29mi | 2/2.0 | 1,568 (-1%) | 9mo | $470,000 | $300 | 73 |
| 9 Saw Mill Rd | 0.20mi | 2/1.5 | 1,566 (-1%) | 20mo | $433,000 | $277 | 70 |
| 127 Woodland Dr | 0.14mi | 3/1.0 (+1) | 1,783 (+12%) | 9mo | $354,000 | $199 | 61 |
| 61 Montrose Dr | 0.23mi | 2/2.0 | 1,375 (-14%) | 3mo | $505,000 | $367 | 60 |
| 135 Cottage Rd | 0.28mi | 3/2.0 (+1) | 1,748 (+10%) | 8mo | $435,000 | $249 | 54 |
| 21 Rockwood Rd | 0.38mi | 2/1.0 | 1,360 (-14%) | 9mo | $375,000 | $276 | 51 |
| 252 Towners Rd | 0.54mi | 3/1.0 (+1) | 1,728 (+9%) | 6mo | $439,000 | $254 | 50 |
| 22 Yorktown Rd | 0.41mi | 2/1.0 | 1,768 (+11%) | 21mo | $380,000 | $215 | 44 |
| 1 Roslyn Rd | 0.60mi | 3/2.0 (+1) | 1,721 (+8%) | 8mo | $455,000 | $264 | 43 |
| 10 Placid Dr | 0.39mi | 3/2.0 (+1) | 1,754 (+10%) | 20mo | $412,700 | $235 | 39 |
| 37 Beechmont Rd | 0.50mi | 3/1.5 (+1) | 1,408 (-11%) | 18mo | $395,000 | $281 | 36 |
| 4 Roslyn Rd | 0.58mi | 3/2.0 (+1) | 1,482 (-7%) | 21mo | $460,000 | $310 | 35 |
Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.
Projected returns pro-forma
-3.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon
- IRR
- -25.2%
- Equity multiple
- 0.14×
- Total profit
- $-98,041
- Equity at exit
- $60,983
- IRR
- -20.5%
- Equity multiple
- -0.09×
- Total profit
- $-124,322
- Equity at exit
- $35,363
Cash invested: $114,520 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.
Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology
- Overall (STATE)
- 15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
- State New York
- 15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
- County
- — inherits STATE
- City
- — inherits STATE
ZIP-level market 10512
- Home prices YoY
- -25.5%
- Active inventory
- 233
- Price-to-rent
- 8.0×
Monthly cashflow live
- Estimated rent
- $4,250 medium interval (Pro) →
- Mortgage (P&I)
- −$2,145
- Tax from tax record
- −$1,552 /mo · $18,624/yr
- Insurance
- −$170
- HOA
- −$0
- Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
- −$892
- Net cashflow
- $-510
Break-even live
Sensitivity live
| Price | -10% $814 | -5% $-394 | +0% $-510 | +5% $-626 | +10% $-741 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rent | -10% $-846 | -5% $-678 | +0% $-510 | +5% $-342 | +10% $-174 |
| Rate | -1.0pp $-304 | -0.5pp $-406 | base $-510 | +0.5pp $-616 | +1.0pp $-724 |
UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt
Financing live
Cash to close
- Down payment
- $102,250
- Closing costs
- $12,270
- Reserves months
- —
- Total cash needed
- —
Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live
Conventional
25% down · 7.5% · 30yr
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
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Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.
DSCR
20% down · 8.5% · 30yr
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
- —
No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.
Hard money
10% down · 12.0% · 12mo
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
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Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.
Rent comps 1 comps
| Address | Beds | Baths | Sqft | Rent | $/sqft | DOM | Units | Dist |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10 Vernon Dr Carmel, NY | 3.0 | 2.0 | 2074 | $4,250 | $2.05 | 45d | 1 | 0.16mi |
Listing history 46 events
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2026-06-21days on market $409,000 Active 46 DOM
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2026-06-18price $409,000 Active 43 DOM
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2026-06-18days on market $415,000 Active 43 DOM
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2026-06-17days on market $415,000 Active 42 DOM
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2026-06-16days on market $415,000 Active 41 DOM
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2026-06-15days on market $415,000 Active 40 DOM
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2026-06-14days on market $415,000 Active 38 DOM
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2026-06-13days on market $415,000 Active 37 DOM
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2026-06-10days on market $415,000 Active 35 DOM
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2026-06-09days on market $415,000 Active 34 DOM
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2026-06-08days on market $415,000 Active 33 DOM
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2026-06-07days on market $415,000 Active 32 DOM
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2026-06-05days on market $415,000 Active 29 DOM
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2026-06-03days on market $415,000 Active 28 DOM
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2026-06-03price $415,000 Active 27 DOM
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2026-06-02days on market $429,000 Active 27 DOM
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2026-06-01days on market $429,000 Active 26 DOM
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2026-05-31days on market $429,000 Active 25 DOM
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2026-05-30days on market $429,000 Active 24 DOM
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2026-05-06$429,000 Active 1342-char remark
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2026-05-05historical $429,000 1342-char remark
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2026-04-29historical
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2026-04-01$459,000 Active
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2026-04-01historical
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2023-07-07soldstatus $180,000
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2022-04-14soldstatus $190,000 Closed
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2022-03-28status Pending
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2022-03-14price $199,500
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2022-02-09price $209,900
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2022-02-09status Active
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2022-02-01status Pending
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2022-01-04status Active
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Country roads leads you to this solid two story house in a quiet neighborhood. It may require a little TLC but worth a look. Additional Information: HeatingFuel:Oil Above Ground,
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2021-12-01status Pending
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2021-11-23price $213,900
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2021-11-09price $225,000
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2021-10-05price $237,500
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Country roads leads you to this solid two story house in a quiet neighborhood. It may require a little TLC but worth a look. Additional Information: HeatingFuel:Oil Above Ground,
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2021-10-05status Active
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Country roads leads you to this solid two story house in a quiet neighborhood. It may require a little TLC but worth a look. Additional Information: HeatingFuel:Oil Above Ground,
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2021-09-20status Pending
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Country roads leads you to this solid two story house in a quiet neighborhood. It may require a little TLC but worth a look. Additional Information: HeatingFuel:Oil Above Ground,
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2021-09-14status Active
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Country roads leads you to this solid two story house in a quiet neighborhood. It may require a little TLC but worth a look. Additional Information: HeatingFuel:Oil Above Ground,
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2021-07-30status Pending
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Country roads leads you to this solid two story house in a quiet neighborhood. It may require a little TLC but worth a look. Additional Information: HeatingFuel:Oil Above Ground,
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2021-07-16$250,000 Active
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Country roads leads you to this solid two story house in a quiet neighborhood. It may require a little TLC but worth a look. Additional Information: HeatingFuel:Oil Above Ground,
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2004-04-05soldstatus $215,000
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2004-03-31soldstatus $215,000
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2004-02-03historical
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2004-02-03price $224,900
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2003-08-18$215,000
ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot
backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.
Tax reassessment forecast NY · Partial reset (capped growth)
- Current annual tax
- $18,624 · $1,552/mo
- Projected year-2 tax
- $18,624 · $1,552/mo
- Expected delta
- $0/yr ($0/mo · 0.0%)
ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.
Climate risk First Street
- Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
- Wildfire 4/10 Moderate
- Heat 4/10 Moderate 7 d/yr ≥96°F today · 14 d/yr by 30 yrs out
- Wind 4/10 Moderate 18% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
- Air quality 3/10 Moderate 2 unhealthy d/yr today · 3 by 30 yrs out
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Taxation est. · year 1
- Rental income
- $51,000
- − Mortgage interest
- −$22,910
- − Property taxes
- −$18,624
- − Insurance
- −$2,045
- − Repairs & maintenance
- −$4,080
- − Management
- −$4,080
- − Depreciation
- −$11,898
- Taxable loss
- −$12,638
- Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
- +$3,033
- After-tax cash flow
- $-3,084/yr
For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.
Schools (NCES district)
- District
- Carmel Central School District
- NCES district ID
- 3606570
- Math proficiency
- 46% ▼ -15.00%
- Reading proficiency
- 63% ▲ 11.00%
- Median HH income
- $87,665
- Composite
- 50.05/100
- National rank
- #1914
- State rank
- #258 of 590 in NY
Livability — Lake Carmel
- Score
- 66/100
- State rank
- #650
- US rank
- #12139
Category grades
Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.
Census & demographics
- Census place
- Lake Carmel, NY
- Population (ZIP)
- 24,238
Population outlook (Putnam County) Hauer SSP2
- Today (2025)
- 99,705 people
- By 2030
- 99,650 · -0.1%
- By 2040
- 98,641 · -1.1%
- By 2050
- 96,348 · -3.4%
- By 2075
- 94,412 · -5.3%
- By 2100
- 88,728 · -11.0%
Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023
- Neighborhood character
- Predominantly White (73%)
- Race & ethnicity
- White 73% Hispanic / Latino 18% Two or more races 9% Black 4% Asian 2%
- Hispanic origin (detail)
- Puerto Rican 6% Dominican 3%
- Common ancestry
- Romanian 4% Italian 2% Lithuanian 1%
- Foreign-born
- 14% · Canada, China, Jamaica
- Languages at home
- 80% English-only · Spanish 11% Other Indo-European 4% Russian/Polish/Slavic 2%
Political lean MEDSL · Putnam
- 2024 margin
- R (+13.7) · D 43.2% · R 56.8%
- 2008→2024 swing
- -6.2pp toward R · 2008: -7.5pp · 2024: -13.7pp
- All cycles
- 2024: R+13.7 2020: R+7.9 2016: R+17.8 2012: R+11.2 2008: R+7.5
Not yet ingested
- Civics
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Market trends
- HPI YoY
- ▼ -88.73%
- Current HPI
- 258.8452
- Rent YoY
- —
- Metro
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- State GDP YoY
- ▲ 2.60%
- F500 in state
- 92
Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)
| Industry | F500 HQs | Revenue |
|---|---|---|
| Financial Services | 10 | $950B |
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| Consumer Goods | 9 | $162B |
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| Insurance | 4 | $225B |
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| Telecommunications | 2 | $144B |
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| Pharmaceuticals | 2 | $112B |
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| Media / Entertainment | 2 | $69B |
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Price history
+90.2% since first listed29 events — show timeline
- 2026-06-18 Price Changed $409,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2026-06-02 Price Changed $415,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2026-05-06 Listed $429,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2026-05-05 Coming Soon $429,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2026-04-29 Listing Removed — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2026-04-01 Listed $459,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2026-04-01 Coming Soon — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2023-07-07 Sold (Public Records) $180,000 Public Records
- 2022-04-14 Sold (MLS) $190,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2022-03-28 Pending — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2022-03-14 Price Changed $199,500 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2022-02-09 Price Changed $209,900 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2022-02-09 Relisted — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2022-02-01 Pending — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2022-01-04 Relisted — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2021-12-01 Pending — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2021-11-23 Price Changed $213,900 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2021-11-09 Price Changed $225,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2021-10-05 Price Changed $237,500 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2021-10-05 Relisted — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2021-09-20 Pending — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2021-09-14 Relisted — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2021-07-30 Pending — OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2021-07-16 Listed $250,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
- 2004-04-05 Sold (Public Records) $215,000 Public Records
- 2004-03-31 Sold (MLS) $215,000 HGMLS
- 2004-02-03 Price Changed $224,900 HGMLS
- 2004-02-03 Delisted — HGMLS
- 2003-08-18 Listed $215,000 HGMLS
Property tax history
+11.7%/yrLatest (2025): $18,624 · +60.9% YoY. Source: county tax records.
Cash-flow waterfall
monthlySold comps — $/sqft
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