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5 8th St
D Composite 44.95
Why this score? — see what drove the D grade

The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • ARV discount +15.0/15.0
  • Cash flow +9.8/30.0
  • Schools +5.9/10.0
  • Livability +3.5/5.0
  • 1% rule +3.0/10.0
  • DSCR +2.8/10.0
  • Rent growth +2.5/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • Appreciation +0.0/10.0

$399,999

5 8th St · Sound Beach, NY 11789
4 bd · 2.0 ba · 1,264 sqft · SingleFamily public records · 35 Days on market
Built 1936 0.29 ac lot $316/sqft · 21% below area Est $639k · 37% under

🖨 Deal sheet 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Listing remarks

Sold as-is. This home needs a full renovation but offers great potential to be transformed into a beautiful 4-bedroom, 2-bath Colonial. Located in the Rocky Point School District on a quiet corner flat property with . 29 acres and low taxes. Great opportunity for an investor, contractor, or end user looking to design and customize a home to their style. Conveniently located approximately 20 minutes from Stony Brook University Hospital, just 5 minutes from Scotts Beach, and offering easy access to Route 25A via North Country Road. CASH or 203k Rehab Loan. Addition for the living room, basement as well as the upstairs was completed 50 years ago without any C/O.

Key facts

  • 0.29 acre lot
  • Built 1936
  • Listed 34 days

Property features AI

Exterior

  • Parking: Unpaved parking
  • Utilities: PSEG electric service; Cesspool sewer; Cable connected; Electricity connected; Public trash collection; Water connected
  • Home design: Single-family home
  • Construction: Frame construction; Block foundation
  • Exterior features: Rain gutters; Back yard; Private yard; Front and rear sprinklers; Wood fencing

Interior

  • Kitchen: Granite counters; Pantry; Breakfast bar; Microwave; Oven; Range
  • Bedrooms: Includes a first-floor bedroom
  • Flooring: Hardwood floors; Wood flooring
  • Bathrooms: 2 full bathrooms
  • Heating & cooling: Oil heating; No central air
  • Interior features: First-floor bedroom; First-floor full bathroom; Breakfast bar; Granite counters; Pantry; Primary bathroom; Recessed lighting; Washer/dryer hookup; Unfinished walk-out basement; Porch
  • Laundry & utility: Laundry located in basement; Washer/dryer hookup

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 4-bed/2.0-bath single-family listed at $400k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $-258 ($-3k/yr) — negative.
  • To cash-flow at today's rent, offer at most $354k (11.4% below list).
  • To meet the 1% rule (rent ≥ 1% of price), the offer needs to be $320k (20.0% below list).
  • Recommended offer: $320k (20.0% below list) — sets the bar for 1% rule.
  • Cap rate 5.5% vs local median 3.8% in Sound Beach — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 70/100 on livability (#458 in NY) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: employment A+, housing A+, crime B; Watch: schools D+, amenities F, commute F.
  • Rocky Point Union Free School District (suburban): math 67% / reading 64% proficiency, ranked #152 of 590 in NY (top 26%) — acceptable for families but not a draw, mixed tenant base, ~2y average lease; only 19% free/reduced lunch — higher-income household profile.
  • Market conditions: 70 active listings in the ZIP; 1 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; 1,366 units permitted in Suffolk County in 2024 (216 in 5+ unit buildings).

Forward outlook

  • Local home prices are declining (-3.0%/yr); year-one equity from $3k of loan paydown is wiped out by about $12k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
  • Suffolk County population projected to shrink 5% by 2050 — rents likely to lag national; underwrite the cash flow, not the appreciation.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 35 days — a 3% lower offer ($388k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 2 sale attempts with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Watch-outs: built in 1936 — expect roof / HVAC / electrical / plumbing capex.
  • Climate carrying-cost: severe wind risk, 80% chance of damaging wind over 30y; extreme-heat days projected 7→15/yr by 2055 (HVAC capex compounding) — expect insurance premiums to compound above CPI over the hold.
Recommended offer $320,000 (20.0% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
  2. It's been on market 35 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 20% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
  3. Built in 1936 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
  4. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  5. Schools are D-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
  6. The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
  7. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  8. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  9. How much new for-sale + rental construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply typically softens prices + rents 12–24 months out; constrained supply supports both.

Investment metrics

1% rule
0.80%
Cap rate
5.52%
Cash-on-cash
-2.77%
DSCR
0.88
GRM
10.4

CMA / ARV

ARV (median comp)
$639,096
List price
$399,999
Delta
-37.41%
Verdict
UNDERPRICED
Comps
20 within 1.0 mi
Show comp detail 12 sales within ~0.75 mi
Address Dist Beds/Ba Sqft Sold Price $/sf Match
24 Hempstead Dr 0.09mi 3/1.0 (-1) 1,235 (-2%) 13mo $520,000 $421 72
19 Belmont Rd 0.60mi 3/2.0 (-1) 1,289 (+2%) 2mo $500,000 $388 62
5 Tuckahoe Rd 0.56mi 3/2.0 (-1) 1,260 (-0%) 13mo $586,000 $465 58
100 Lynbrook Dr 0.55mi 3/1.0 (-1) 1,282 (+1%) 12mo $515,000 $402 53
110 Sound Beach Blvd 0.33mi 3/2.0 (-1) 1,118 (-12%) 10mo $535,000 $479 52
7 Commack Rd 0.48mi 3/3.0 (-1) 1,200 (-5%) 11mo $534,000 $445 51
20 Whitestone Rd #1486 0.55mi 4/2.0 1,440 (+14%) 4mo $600,000 $417 48
35 Beacon Dr 0.74mi 3/2.0 (-1) 1,308 (+4%) 11mo $625,000 $478 46
23 Malverne Rd 0.65mi 3/2.0 (-1) 1,200 (-5%) 13mo $530,000 $442 46
31 Brookhaven Dr 0.73mi 4/2.0 1,094 (-13%) 4mo $550,000 $503 41
45 Brookhaven Dr 0.74mi 3/1.0 (-1) 1,334 (+6%) 13mo $482,500 $362 36
214 Harrison Ave 0.65mi 3/1.0 (-1) 1,075 (-15%) 5mo $565,000 $526 32

Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.

Projected returns pro-forma

-3.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
-20.9%
Equity multiple
0.27×
Total profit
$-81,210
Equity at exit
$59,641
10-year hold
IRR
-14.2%
Equity multiple
0.18×
Total profit
$-91,652
Equity at exit
$34,585

Cash invested: $112,000 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
State New York
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
NYC rent stabilization (~1M units); 2019 HSTPA strengthened tenant rights; courts deeply backlogged.

ZIP-level market 11789

Home prices YoY
-33.0%
Active inventory
70
Price-to-rent
10.4×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$3,200 medium interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$2,098
Tax from tax record
$522 /mo · $6,265/yr
Insurance
$167
HOA
$0
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$672
Net cashflow
$-258

Break-even live

Break-even rent $3,527
Max offer price $354,360
Occupancy floor

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$100,000
Closing costs
$12,000
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Rent comps 1 comps

AddressBedsBaths SqftRent$/sqft DOM Units Dist
96 Hallock Landing Rd Rocky Point, NY 3.0 1.0 1254 $3,200 $2.55 44d 1 1.45mi

Listing history 5 events

  1. 2026-06-02
    days on market $399,999 Active 35 DOM
  2. 2026-06-01
    days on market $399,999 Active 34 DOM
  3. 2026-05-31
    days on market $399,999 Active 33 DOM
  4. 2026-04-22
    listed $399,999 Active 666-char remark
  5. 2025-10-27
    listed $399,999 Active

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Tax reassessment forecast NY · Partial reset (capped growth)

Current annual tax
$6,265 · $522/mo
Projected year-2 tax
$6,512 · $543/mo
Expected delta
+$248/yr (+$21/mo · 4.0%)

ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X (unshaded) · 0% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 3/10 Moderate
  • 🌡 Heat 5/10 Major 7 d/yr ≥93°F today · 15 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 8/10 Severe 80% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
  • 🫁 Air quality 4/10 Moderate 3 unhealthy d/yr today · 5 by 30 yrs out

Nearby sold comps map

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$38,400
− Mortgage interest
−$22,406
− Property taxes
−$6,265
− Insurance
−$2,000
− Repairs & maintenance
−$3,072
− Management
−$3,072
− Depreciation
−$11,636
Taxable loss
−$10,051
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
+$2,412
After-tax cash flow
$-688/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Rocky Point Union Free School District
NCES district ID
3624840
Math proficiency
67% ▼ -4.00%
Reading proficiency
64% ▼ -7.00%
Median HH income
$86,256
Composite
59.12/100
National rank
#953
State rank
#152 of 590 in NY

Livability — Sound Beach

Score
70/100
State rank
#458
US rank
#7991

Category grades

Amenities F Commute F Cost of living F Crime B Employment A+ Housing A+ Health & safety B User ratings B

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
Sound Beach, NY
City population
7,447
Population (ZIP)
7,447

Population outlook (Suffolk County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
1,505,262 people
By 2030
1,498,318 · -0.5%
By 2040
1,471,101 · -2.3%
By 2050
1,424,848 · -5.3%
By 2075
1,337,157 · -11.2%
By 2100
1,217,720 · -19.1%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Predominantly White (82%)
Race & ethnicity
White 82% Two or more races 11% Hispanic / Latino 9% Black 3%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Puerto Rican 1%
Common ancestry
Romanian 9% Slovak 6% Italian 3%
Foreign-born
7% · Canada, Jamaica, China
Languages at home
92% English-only · Spanish 4% Russian/Polish/Slavic 1% Other Asian/Pacific 1%

Political lean MEDSL · Suffolk

2024 margin
Lean R (+10.0) · D 45.0% · R 55.0%
2008→2024 swing
-16.0pp toward R · 2008: 6.0pp · 2024: -10.0pp
All cycles
2024: R+10.0 2020: R+0.0 2016: R+8.2 2012: D+2.9 2008: D+6.0

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▼ -180.99%
Current HPI
366.6474
Rent YoY
Metro
State GDP YoY
▲ 2.60%
F500 in state
92

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

+0.0% since first listed
3 events — show timeline
  • 2026-06-02 Listing Removed OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2026-04-22 Listed $399,999 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2025-10-27 Listed $399,999 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid

Property tax history

+2.4%/yr

Latest (2025): $6,265 · +0.0% YoY. Source: county tax records.

Cash-flow waterfall

monthly

Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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