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17 Stone Cmns
D Composite 41.44
Why this score? — see what drove the D grade

The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • Cash flow +12.5/30.0
  • ARV discount +7.5/15.0
  • Schools +5.2/10.0
  • 1% rule +4.4/10.0
  • DSCR +3.7/10.0
  • Livability +3.2/5.0
  • Rent growth +2.5/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • Appreciation +0.0/10.0

$429,000

17 Stone Cmns · Yaphank, NY 11980
2 bd · 1.5 ba · 1,036 sqft · Condo · 20 Days on market
Built 1983 $500/mo HOA · 12% of rent

🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Listing remarks MLS

For Sale Spacious 2-bedroom, 1.5-bath condo located in Stone Commons. This end unit offers added privacy and includes an attached garage for convenience.

Key facts

  • $500 HOA
  • Garage
  • Community pool

Property features AI

Finance

  • HOA & community: Has association; Monthly association fee of $500; Association fee covers common area maintenance, grounds care, pool service, snow removal, and water; Additional quarterly fee of $151 for sewer; Community amenities include clubhouse, gated entry, landscaping, lounge, grounds maintenance, park, parking, playground, pool, recreation facilities, tennis courts, basketball court, and trash service

Exterior

  • Parking: Attached garage; Driveway; Garage (1 space)
  • Security: Gated community
  • Utilities: Electric service by PSEG; Shared sewer; Cable available and connected; Electricity connected; Phone connected; Sewer connected; Trash collection (private); Underground utilities; Water connected
  • Home design: Townhouse (condominium); Two-story; Entry level: 1
  • Construction: Frame construction
  • Exterior features: Basketball court; Lighting; Mailbox; Playground; Private entrance; Tennis courts; Community in-ground outdoor pool; Back yard; Located on a cul-de-sac; Level lot; Near shops; Private lot; Partial fencing

Interior

  • Kitchen: Dishwasher; Electric oven; Refrigerator; Granite counters
  • Bathrooms: One full bathroom; One half bathroom
  • Heating & cooling: Forced air heating; Central air conditioning; Wood-burning fireplace in living room
  • Interior features: Formal dining area; Galley-style kitchen; Granite counters; Open floorplan; Washer/dryer hookup; Finished full basement with storage space; Common attic; Pets allowed; Two stories, entry on first floor; Total of 5 rooms
  • Laundry & utility: Washer; Dryer; Washer/dryer hookup; Oil water heater

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 2-bed/1.5-bath condo listed at $429k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $-62 ($-743/yr) — negative.
  • To cash-flow at today's rent, offer at most $418k (2.6% below list).
  • To meet the 1% rule (rent ≥ 1% of price), the offer needs to be $403k (6.1% below list).
  • Recommended offer: $403k (6.1% below list) — sets the bar for 1% rule.
  • Cap rate 6.1% vs local median 2.4% in Yaphank — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 63/100 on livability (#781 in NY) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: employment A+, housing A+, crime B; Watch: amenities F, commute F, cost of living F.
  • Longwood Central School District (rural): math 61% / reading 55% proficiency, ranked #235 of 590 in NY (top 40%) — acceptable for families but not a draw, mixed tenant base, ~2y average lease.
  • Zoned schools: West Middle Island School (math 32% / reading 52%, grade F, #1,361 of 2,108 statewide, top 67%, 642 students, 46% FRL); Longwood Junior High School (math 67% / reading 67%, grade A-, #101 of 729 statewide, top 15%, 1,388 students, 48% FRL); Longwood High School (math 90% / reading 77%, grade A, #409 of 1,100 statewide, top 39%, 2,977 students, 44% FRL).
  • Market conditions: 46 active listings in the ZIP; 4 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; rentals leasing fast (median 0d on market — plan ~1-2 weeks tenant-placement turnaround); solid renter incomes; 1,366 units permitted in Suffolk County in 2024 (216 in 5+ unit buildings).
  • At $4,027/mo this rent would consume 47% of the median local household income ($103k/yr) (locally 503% of renters already pay >50% of income on rent) — very limited rent-growth headroom before tenants either downsize or default.

Forward outlook

  • Local home prices are declining (-3.0%/yr); year-one equity from $3k of loan paydown is wiped out by about $13k of value loss. Plan a longer hold.
  • Suffolk County population projected to shrink 5% by 2050 — rents likely to lag national; underwrite the cash flow, not the appreciation.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 20 days — a 2% lower offer ($423k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 2 sale attempts with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
  • Current owner paid $245k; list at $429k implies a 75% gain — meaningful room to come down on a strong offer.
Recommended offer $402,736 (6.1% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
  2. What does the HOA fee cover, when was the last increase, and are there any pending special assessments or reserve-fund shortfalls?
  3. Any open or pending special assessments — roof, HVAC, plumbing, elevator, façade? What's the per-unit balance and payoff schedule, and is the seller paying it off at close or rolling it to the buyer?
  4. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  5. Schools are D-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
  6. The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
  7. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  8. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  9. How much new apartment / multifamily construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply (>2% of stock underway) typically softens rents 12–24 months out; light construction supports rent growth.

Investment metrics

1% rule
0.94%
Cap rate
6.12%
Cash-on-cash
-0.62%
DSCR
0.97
GRM
8.9

CMA / ARV

No comps found within radius.

Projected returns pro-forma

-3.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
-17.2%
Equity multiple
0.39×
Total profit
$-73,230
Equity at exit
$63,965
10-year hold
IRR
-9.1%
Equity multiple
0.43×
Total profit
$-67,904
Equity at exit
$37,092

Cash invested: $120,120 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
State New York
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
NYC rent stabilization (~1M units); 2019 HSTPA strengthened tenant rights; courts deeply backlogged.

ZIP-level market 11980

Home prices YoY
-12.6%
Active inventory
46
Price-to-rent
8.9×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$4,027 medium interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$2,250
Tax from tax record
$315 /mo · $3,781/yr
Insurance
$179
HOA
$500
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$846
Net cashflow
$-62

Break-even live

Break-even rent $4,106
Max offer price $418,057
Occupancy floor 97%

Sensitivity live

Price -10% $181 -5% $59 +0% $-62 +5% $-183 +10% $-305
Rent -10% $-380 -5% $-221 +0% $-62 +5% $97 +10% $256
Rate -1.0pp $154 -0.5pp $47 base $-62 +0.5pp $-173 +1.0pp $-286

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$107,250
Closing costs
$12,870
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Rent comps 4 comps

AddressBedsBaths SqftRent$/sqft DOM Units Dist
17 Bartlett Yaphank, NY 3.0 1.5 1300 $3,950 $3.04 9d 1 0.36mi
1 Reserve Dr Yaphank, NY 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.0 1135 $3,804 $3.35 0d 11 0.49mi
410 Princeton Rd Yaphank, NY 1.0–2.0 1.0–2.5 1092 $4,518 $4.14 0d 19 0.59mi
3 Meadows Ln Unit 11 Yaphank, NY 2.0 2.0 948 $5,200 $5.49 0d 1 0.86mi

HOA detail condo

Monthly dues
$500 · $6,000/yr
Assessments
None detected in remarks — confirm with the listing agent.

Listing history 24 events

  1. 2026-06-21
    days on market $429,000 Active 20 DOM
  2. 2026-06-18
    days on market $429,000 Active 17 DOM
  3. 2026-06-17
    days on market $429,000 Active 16 DOM
  4. 2026-06-16
    days on market $429,000 Active 15 DOM
  5. 2026-06-15
    days on market $429,000 Active 14 DOM
  6. 2026-06-13
    days on market $429,000 Active 12 DOM
  7. 2026-06-13
    days on market $429,000 Active 11 DOM
  8. 2026-06-09
    days on market $429,000 Active 8 DOM
  9. 2026-06-08
    days on market $429,000 Active 7 DOM
  10. 2026-06-07
    days on market $429,000 Active 6 DOM
  11. 2026-06-04
    days on market $429,000 Active 3 DOM
  12. 2026-06-03
    days on market $429,000 Active 2 DOM
  13. 2026-06-02
    remarks 693-char remark
  14. 2026-06-02
    pricedays on marketlisting id $429,000 Active 1 DOM
  15. 2026-06-01
    days on market $436,500 Active 20 DOM
  16. 2026-05-31
    days on market $436,500 Active 19 DOM
  17. 2026-05-12
    listed $436,500 Active 154-char remark
    Show marketing remark (154 chars)

    For Sale Spacious 2-bedroom, 1.5-bath condo located in Stone Commons. This end unit offers added privacy and includes an attached garage for convenience.

  18. 2008-10-31
    soldstatus $245,000
  19. 2003-01-23
    soldstatus $198,000
  20. 2003-01-23
    soldstatus $198,000
  21. 1991-03-15
    soldstatus $95,000
  22. 1990-12-04
    soldstatus $101,500
  23. 1988-09-23
    soldstatus $125,000
  24. 1985-10-25
    soldstatus $84,000

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Tax reassessment forecast NY · Partial reset (capped growth)

Current annual tax
$3,781 · $315/mo
Projected year-2 tax
$5,516 · $460/mo
Expected delta
+$1,735/yr (+$145/mo · 45.9%)

ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$48,328
− Mortgage interest
−$24,031
− Property taxes
−$3,781
− Insurance
−$2,145
− Repairs & maintenance
−$3,866
− Management
−$3,866
− HOA
−$6,000
− Depreciation
−$12,480
Taxable loss
−$7,841
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
+$1,882
After-tax cash flow
$1,138/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Longwood Central School District
NCES district ID
3619230
Math proficiency
61% ▬ 0.00%
Reading proficiency
55% ▼ -1.00%
Median HH income
$72,748
Composite
51.63/100
National rank
#1703
State rank
#235 of 590 in NY

Livability — Yaphank

Score
63/100
State rank
#781
US rank
#14871

Category grades

Amenities F Commute F Cost of living F Crime B Employment A+ Housing A+ Health & safety F User ratings A+

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
Yaphank, NY
County
Suffolk County · 679,920 people
City population
5,855
Metro
New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA
Population (ZIP)
5,855
Household income
$102,600
Rent vs Own
30.1% rent · 69.9% own
Severe rent burden
503.0

Population outlook (Suffolk County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
1,505,262 people
By 2030
1,498,318 · -0.5%
By 2040
1,471,101 · -2.3%
By 2050
1,424,848 · -5.3%
By 2075
1,337,157 · -11.2%
By 2100
1,217,720 · -19.1%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Predominantly White (79%)
Race & ethnicity
White 79% Hispanic / Latino 12% Black 5% Two or more races 4% Asian 2%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Mexican 1% Puerto Rican 3%
Common ancestry
Romanian 7% Italian 2% Lithuanian 2%
Foreign-born
10% · Canada, China, Guatemala
Languages at home
85% English-only · Spanish 9% Other Indo-European 2% Chinese 1%

Political lean MEDSL · Suffolk

2024 margin
Lean R (+10.0) · D 45.0% · R 55.0%
2008→2024 swing
-16.0pp toward R · 2008: 6.0pp · 2024: -10.0pp
All cycles
2024: R+10.0 2020: R+0.0 2016: R+8.2 2012: D+2.9 2008: D+6.0

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▼ -46.41%
Current HPI
323.3583
Rent YoY
Metro
New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA
State GDP YoY
▲ 2.60%
F500 in state
92

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

+410.7% since first listed
10 events — show timeline
  • 2026-06-01 Listed $429,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2026-05-22 Coming Soon $429,000 OneKey® MLS as Distributed by MLS Grid
  • 2026-05-12 Listed $436,500 FSBO.com
  • 2008-10-31 Sold (Public Records) $245,000 Public Records
  • 2003-01-23 Sold (Public Records) $198,000 Public Records
  • 2003-01-23 Sold (Public Records) $198,000 Public Records
  • 1991-03-15 Sold (Public Records) $95,000 Public Records
  • 1990-12-04 Sold (Public Records) $101,500 Public Records
  • 1988-09-23 Sold (Public Records) $125,000 Public Records
  • 1985-10-25 Sold (Public Records) $84,000 Public Records

Property tax history

+1.6%/yr

Latest (2025): $3,781 · +0.0% YoY. Source: county tax records.

Cash-flow waterfall

monthly

Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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