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2835 State Route 8
D Composite 41.9
Why this score? — see what drove the D grade

The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • ARV discount +15.0/15.0
  • Cash flow +7.1/30.0
  • Appreciation +5.0/10.0
  • Schools +4.1/10.0
  • Livability +3.4/5.0
  • Rent growth +2.5/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0
  • DSCR +1.3/10.0
  • 1% rule +1.0/10.0

$229,000

2835 State Route 8 · Speculator, NY 12164
3 bd · 1.0 ba · 1,212 sqft · SingleFamily public records · 16 Days on market
Built 1928 0.28 ac lot $189/sqft · 26% below area Est $309k · 26% under

🖨 Deal sheet 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Listing remarks

Act quickly to secure this charming 3 season Adirondack retreat with shared deeded access to Lake Pleasant, located just moments from the water in the heart of Speculator . This inviting property is the perfect landing pad for weekend getaways, and outdoor enthusiasts looking to enjoy lake life and mountain living. Inside, the home offers a warm and welcoming layout featuring a kitchen, a dining area, and a spacious living room centered around a majestic stone hearth. The spaces flow naturally together, creating a comfortable setting for gathering and relaxing. Enter through a charming mudroom with knotty pine walls, ideal for Adirondack living. The main floor also includes a bedroom and fu

Key facts

  • Firepit
  • Seasonal lake access
  • Charming mudroom

Tags

MAJESTIC STONE HEARTHWOOD BURNING STOVECHARMING MUDROOMWOODED YARDFIREPITSEASONAL LAKE ACCESS

Property features AI

Exterior

  • Parking: Off-street parking for 5 vehicles
  • Utilities: Public water; Public sewer
  • Home design: Single family residence
  • Construction: Wood siding
  • Exterior features: Shingle/asphalt roof; Shed(s); Wooded lot with views; Deeded shared water access to Lake Pleasant; Waterfront on Lake Pleasant

Interior

  • Kitchen: Range; Refrigerator
  • Bedrooms: First-floor bedroom; Second-floor bedroom; Second-floor bedroom
  • Flooring: Hardwood
  • Bathrooms: Two full bathrooms — one on the first floor and one on the second floor
  • Heating & cooling: Electric heating; Wood heating
  • Interior features: Paddle fan; Two wood-burning fireplaces (one with insert) — fireplaces in family room and living room; Total of 9 rooms

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 3-bed/1.0-bath single-family listed at $229k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $-327 ($-4k/yr) — negative.
  • To cash-flow at today's rent, offer at most $171k (25.2% below list).
  • To meet the 1% rule (rent ≥ 1% of price), the offer needs to be $137k (40.0% below list).
  • Recommended offer: $137k (40.0% below list) — sets the bar for 1% rule.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 68/100 on livability (#525 in NY) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: employment A+, housing A+, cost of living B+; Watch: health & safety C-, crime D-, amenities F.
  • Lake Pleasant Central School District (rural): math 40% / reading 50% proficiency, ranked #546 of 755 in NY (top 72%) — families likely to look elsewhere, expect single-tenant / working-renter base with shorter leases.
  • Zoned schools: Lake Pleasant School (math 44% / reading 74%, grade B-, #745 of 2,108 statewide, top 39%, 73 students, 0% FRL) — zoned schools average 0% FRL vs 21% district-wide (21 pts lower); this property's tenant base skews higher-income than the district average.
  • Zoned-school proficiency averages 60% at this address vs 45% district-wide (+14 pts) — the actual schools serving this property are materially stronger than the Lake Pleasant Central School District average implies; a family-tenant draw the district grade alone would hide.
  • Market conditions: 2 active listings in the ZIP; 55 units permitted in Hamilton County in 2024 (0 in 5+ unit buildings).

Forward outlook

  • In year one you build about $8k of equity ($2k loan paydown + $7k appreciation (3.0% local appreciation)).
  • Hamilton County population projected at -26% by 2050 — secular population decline; favor cash flow + early exit over multi-decade hold.
  • By year 5, paydown + projected appreciation supports a ~$37k cash-out refi (75% LTV) — recoverable capital for the next deal without selling this one.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 16 days — a 2% lower offer ($226k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • Current owner paid $38k; list at $229k implies a 503% gain — meaningful room to come down on a strong offer.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Watch-outs: built in 1928 — expect roof / HVAC / electrical / plumbing capex.
Recommended offer $137,353 (40.0% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
  2. Built in 1928 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
  3. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  4. Schools are D-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
  5. Crime grade is D in this area — have there been break-ins, vandalism, or insurance claims at this property in the last 3 years? What carrier currently insures it and at what premium?
  6. The area grade is low — what's the realistic commute time and amenity access for the typical tenant pool here? Any planned neighborhood developments (good or bad) we should know about?
  7. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  8. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  9. How much new for-sale + rental construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply typically softens prices + rents 12–24 months out; constrained supply supports both.

Investment metrics

1% rule
0.60%
Cap rate
4.58%
Cash-on-cash
-6.11%
DSCR
0.73
GRM
13.9

CMA / ARV

ARV (median comp)
$308,970
List price
$229,000
Delta
-25.88%
Verdict
UNDERPRICED
Comps
8 within 1.0 mi
Show comp detail 2 sales within ~0.75 mi
Address Dist Beds/Ba Sqft Sold Price $/sf Match
107 Charlie Brown Ln 0.46mi 2/1.0 (-1) 1,100 (-9%) 17mo $260,000 $236 44
123 Elm Lake Rd 0.70mi 4/2.0 (+1) 1,349 (+11%) 6mo $262,500 $195 34

Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.

Projected returns pro-forma

3.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
1.8%
Equity multiple
1.10×
Total profit
$6,704
Equity at exit
$102,968
10-year hold
IRR
5.4%
Equity multiple
1.83×
Total profit
$52,934
Equity at exit
$158,686

Cash invested: $64,120 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
State New York
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
NYC rent stabilization (~1M units); 2019 HSTPA strengthened tenant rights; courts deeply backlogged.

ZIP-level market 12164

Active inventory
2
Price-to-rent
13.9×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$1,374 medium interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$1,201
Tax from tax record
$115 /mo · $1,384/yr
Insurance
$95
HOA
$0
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$288
Net cashflow
$-327

Break-even live

Break-even rent $1,787
Max offer price $171,315
Occupancy floor

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$57,250
Closing costs
$6,870
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Listing history 2 events

  1. 2026-05-04
    listed $229,000 Active 1512-char remark
  2. 2011-11-18
    soldstatus $38,000

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Tax reassessment forecast NY · Partial reset (capped growth)

Current annual tax
$1,384 · $115/mo
Projected year-2 tax
$2,627 · $219/mo
Expected delta
+$1,243/yr (+$104/mo · 89.8%)

ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 1/10 Low 0% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 1/10 Low
  • 🌡 Heat 1/10 Low 7 d/yr ≥88°F today · 16 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 2/10 Low 100% chance of damaging wind over 30 yrs
  • 🫁 Air quality 1/10 Low 0 unhealthy d/yr today · 0 by 30 yrs out

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$16,482
− Mortgage interest
−$12,828
− Property taxes
−$1,384
− Insurance
−$1,145
− Repairs & maintenance
−$1,319
− Management
−$1,319
− Depreciation
−$6,662
Taxable loss
−$8,173
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
+$1,962
After-tax cash flow
$-1,957/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Lake Pleasant Central School District
NCES district ID
3616530
Math proficiency
40% ▬ 0.00%
Reading proficiency
50% ▬ 0.00%
Median HH income
$54,885
Composite
41.31/100
National rank
#7364
State rank
#546 of 755 in NY

Livability — Speculator

Score
68/100
State rank
#525
US rank
#9282

Category grades

Amenities F Commute F Cost of living B+ Crime D- Employment A+ Housing A+ Health & safety C- User ratings A+

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
Speculator, NY
Population (ZIP)
520

Population outlook (Hamilton County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
4,374 people
By 2030
4,157 · -5.0%
By 2040
3,641 · -16.8%
By 2050
3,238 · -26.0%
By 2075
2,644 · -39.6%
By 2100
2,017 · -53.9%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Predominantly White (97%)
Race & ethnicity
White 97% Hispanic / Latino 2% Two or more races 2% Asian 2%
Common ancestry
Lithuanian 8% Slovak 7% Romanian 7%
Foreign-born
2% · South Korea
Languages at home
97% English-only · Chinese 2% German/W. Germanic 1%

Political lean MEDSL · Hamilton

2024 margin
Strong R (+29.5) · D 35.3% · R 64.7%
2008→2024 swing
-2.6pp toward R · 2008: -26.9pp · 2024: -29.5pp
All cycles
2024: R+29.5 2020: R+30.3 2016: R+38.8 2012: R+26.2 2008: R+26.9

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
Current HPI
Rent YoY
Metro
State GDP YoY
▲ 2.60%
F500 in state
92

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

+502.6% since first listed
3 events — show timeline
  • 2026-05-20 Pending Global MLS
  • 2026-05-04 Listed $229,000 Global MLS
  • 2011-11-18 Sold (Public Records) $38,000 Public Records

Property tax history

+5.3%/yr

Latest (2025): $1,384 · +2.4% YoY. Source: county tax records.

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Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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