12 Stone St · West Carthage, NY
Flood risk 1/10 · Minimal
- FEMA flood zone
- X
- Chance of flooding over 30 yrs
- 0.0%
- Est. flood insurance / yr
- $473 – $860
Fire risk 1/10 · Minimal
- Est. fire insurance / yr
- $691 – $1,283
Heat risk 1/10 · Minimal
- Hot days now (above 92°F)
- 7 days/yr
- Hot days in 30 yrs
- 16 days/yr
Wind risk 1/10 · Minimal
- Chance of severe wind over 30 yrs
- —
Air-quality risk 2/10 · Minimal
- Unhealthy air days now
- 0 days/yr
- Unhealthy air days in 30 yrs
- 1 days/yr
Risk factors via First Street. Map © Google.
Why this score? — see what drove the C- grade
The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).
- ARV discount +15.0/15.0
- Cash flow +10.9/30.0
- Appreciation +10.0/10.0
- Schools +3.3/10.0
- 1% rule +3.2/10.0
- DSCR +3.2/10.0
- Livability +3.1/5.0
- Rent growth +2.5/5.0
- Condition / age +2.5/5.0
$169,900
🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence
Listing remarks MLS
Charming village home located blocks from the local park, shopping & more! Enclosed front & back porches give a space to sit & relax while staying dry. Interior open floor plan offers a large living room, formal dining room, kitchen with breakfast bar that all flows together. 1st floor bedroom plus 1st floor laundry. Upstairs are 2 good sized bedrooms plus one with a large walk-in closet. An additional small nursery could also be converted to a walk-in closet. Full bath with tub unit completes the 2nd story. Hardwood floors, newer vinyl windows, metal roof & vinyl siding. Full dry basement for extra storage, newer furnace & water heater, 2 car detached garage with power. Large yard with firepit gives room to garden, play & enjoy the outdoors. Only 15 minutes to Fort Drum.
Key facts
- Open floor plan
- Full dry basement
- Large walk-in closet
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What this means for you Summary
Snapshot
- This is a 3-bed/1.0-bath single-family listed at $170k.
Deal economics
- At list price, monthly cash flow is $-74 ($-893/yr) — negative.
- To cash-flow at today's rent, offer at most $157k (7.7% below list).
- To meet the 1% rule (rent ≥ 1% of price), the offer needs to be $139k (18.0% below list).
- Recommended offer: $139k (18.0% below list) — sets the bar for 1% rule.
- Cap rate 5.8% vs local median 4.3% in West Carthage — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.
Location & tenants
- Location reads 61/100 on livability (#912 in NY) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: crime A, cost of living A-, housing B+; Watch: employment D+, health & safety D, amenities F.
- Carthage Central School District (rural): math 30% / reading 46% proficiency, ranked #539 of 590 in NY (top 91%) — families likely to look elsewhere, expect single-tenant / working-renter base with shorter leases.
- Zoned schools: West Carthage Elementary School (math 22% / reading 42%, grade F, #1,646 of 2,108 statewide, top 80%, 348 students, 51% FRL); Carthage Middle School (math 19% / reading 41%, grade F, #539 of 729 statewide, top 74%, 899 students, 51% FRL); Carthage Senior High School (math 92% / reading 72%, grade A, #452 of 1,100 statewide, top 44%, 815 students, 52% FRL) — zoned schools average 51% FRL vs 31% district-wide (20 pts higher); higher-poverty schools than district average — tighter screening recommended.
- Market conditions: 78 active listings in the ZIP; 1 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; 196 units permitted in Jefferson County in 2024 (0 in 5+ unit buildings).
Forward outlook
- In year one you build about $18k of equity ($1k loan paydown + $17k appreciation (10.0% local appreciation)).
- Jefferson County population projected at -12% by 2050 — secular population decline; favor cash flow + early exit over multi-decade hold.
- At projected returns (10.0% appreciation + 3.0% rent growth), your $48k cash investment doubles in ~3 years — after that, you're playing with house money.
- By year 3, paydown + projected appreciation supports a ~$46k cash-out refi (75% LTV) — recoverable capital for the next deal without selling this one.
Negotiation context
- It's been on market 310 days — a 12% lower offer ($150k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
- 2 sale attempts since 3y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
- Current owner paid $140k; 21% above their basis — modest negotiation headroom, anchor on the comps not their cost.
Risks & watch-outs
- Watch-outs: built in 1870 — expect roof / HVAC / electrical / plumbing capex.
Questions for the listing agent
- What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
- It's been on market 310 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 18% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
- Built in 1870 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
- Why hasn't it sold? Are there any deal-killer items the seller is aware of (foundation, flood, title, zoning, code violations)?
- Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
- Schools are F-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
- What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
- What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
- How much new for-sale + rental construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply typically softens prices + rents 12–24 months out; constrained supply supports both.
Investment metrics
- 1% rule
- 0.82% ✗
- Cap rate
- 5.77%
- Cash-on-cash
- -1.88%
- DSCR
- 0.92
- GRM
- 10.2
CMA / ARV
- ARV (median comp)
- $226,134
- List price
- $169,900
- Delta
- -24.87%
- Verdict
- UNDERPRICED
- Comps
- 20 within 1.0 mi
Show comp detail 12 sales within ~0.75 mi
| Address | Dist | Beds/Ba | Sqft | Sold | Price | $/sf | Match |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 29 Stone St | 0.15mi | 3/1.5 | 1,320 (-3%) | 2mo | $222,900 | $169 | 84 |
| 32 Franklin St | 0.19mi | 3/1.0 | 1,400 (+3%) | 7mo | $164,600 | $118 | 81 |
| 51 Champion St | 0.34mi | 3/1.0 | 1,392 (+2%) | 0mo | $215,000 | $154 | 80 |
| 30 High St | 0.06mi | 4/2.0 (+1) | 1,397 (+3%) | 10mo | $200,000 | $143 | 76 |
| 22 Liberty St | 0.22mi | 3/1.5 | 1,472 (+8%) | 2mo | $185,300 | $126 | 73 |
| 71 Champion St | 0.34mi | 3/2.0 | 1,317 (-3%) | 8mo | $143,000 | $109 | 68 |
| 46 Liberty St | 0.26mi | 3/1.0 | 1,200 (-12%) | 8mo | $214,900 | $179 | 62 |
| 89 Champion St | 0.45mi | 3/2.0 | 1,434 (+5%) | 6mo | $235,000 | $164 | 61 |
| 26 Liberty St | 0.21mi | 3/1.5 | 1,536 (+13%) | 9mo | $185,500 | $121 | 59 |
| 20392 County Route 45 | 0.35mi | 4/1.0 (+1) | 1,536 (+13%) | 9mo | $151,000 | $98 | 50 |
| 43 N Broad St | 0.50mi | 2/1.5 (-1) | 1,248 (-8%) | 8mo | $100,000 | $80 | 49 |
| 228 Church St | 0.74mi | 4/2.0 (+1) | 1,400 (+3%) | 7mo | $159,900 | $114 | 46 |
Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.
Projected returns pro-forma
10.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon
- IRR
- 22.9%
- Equity multiple
- 2.85×
- Total profit
- $87,812
- Equity at exit
- $153,059
- IRR
- 20.5%
- Equity multiple
- 6.52×
- Total profit
- $262,361
- Equity at exit
- $330,078
Cash invested: $47,572 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.
Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology
- Overall (STATE)
- 15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
- State New York
- 15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
- County
- — inherits STATE
- City
- — inherits STATE
ZIP-level market 13619
- Home prices YoY
- 26.0%
- Active inventory
- 78
- Price-to-rent
- 10.2×
Monthly cashflow live
- Estimated rent
- $1,392 medium interval (Pro) →
- Mortgage (P&I)
- −$891
- Tax from tax record
- −$213 /mo · $2,552/yr
- Insurance
- −$71
- HOA
- −$0
- Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
- −$292
- Net cashflow
- $-74
Break-even live
Sensitivity live
| Price | -10% $22 | -5% $-26 | +0% $-74 | +5% $-123 | +10% $-171 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rent | -10% $-184 | -5% $-129 | +0% $-74 | +5% $-19 | +10% $36 |
| Rate | -1.0pp $11 | -0.5pp $-31 | base $-74 | +0.5pp $-118 | +1.0pp $-163 |
UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt
Financing live
Cash to close
- Down payment
- $42,475
- Closing costs
- $5,097
- Reserves months
- —
- Total cash needed
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Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live
Conventional
25% down · 7.5% · 30yr
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
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Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.
DSCR
20% down · 8.5% · 30yr
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
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No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.
Hard money
10% down · 12.0% · 12mo
- Down + closing
- —
- Monthly P&I
- —
- Monthly cashflow
- —
- DSCR
- —
- Eligible?
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Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.
Rent comps 1 comps
| Address | Beds | Baths | Sqft | Rent | $/sqft | DOM | Units | Dist |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 719 Alexandria St Unit 719 Carthage, NY | 3.0 | 1.0 | 1100 | $995 | $0.90 | 45d | 1 | 0.93mi |
Listing history 24 events
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2026-06-21days on market $169,900 Active 310 DOM
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2026-06-19days on market $169,900 Active 308 DOM
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2026-06-18days on market $169,900 Active 307 DOM
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2026-06-17days on market $169,900 Active 306 DOM
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2026-06-16days on market $169,900 Active 305 DOM
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2026-06-15days on market $169,900 Active 304 DOM
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2026-06-14days on market $169,900 Active 302 DOM
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2026-06-12days on market $169,900 Active 301 DOM
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2026-06-09days on market $169,900 Active 298 DOM
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2026-06-08days on market $169,900 Active 297 DOM
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2026-06-07days on market $169,900 Active 296 DOM
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2026-06-05days on market $169,900 Active 293 DOM
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2026-06-03days on market $169,900 Active 292 DOM
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2026-06-02days on market $169,900 Active 291 DOM
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2026-06-01days on market $169,900 Active 290 DOM
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2026-05-31days on market $169,900 Active 289 DOM
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2026-05-30days on market $169,900 Active 288 DOM
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2025-08-15$169,900 Active 818-char remark
Show marketing remark (818 chars)
Charming village home located blocks from the local park, shopping & more! Enclosed front & back porches give a space to sit & relax while staying dry. Interior open floor plan offers a large living room, formal dining room, kitchen with breakfast bar that all flows together. 1st floor bedroom plus 1st floor laundry. Upstairs are 2 good sized bedrooms plus one with a large walk-in closet. An additional small nursery could also be converted to a walk-in closet. Full bath with tub unit completes the 2nd story. Hardwood floors, newer vinyl windows, metal roof & vinyl siding. Full dry basement for extra storage, newer furnace & water heater, 2 car detached garage with power. Large yard with firepit gives room to garden, play & enjoy the outdoors. Only 15 minutes to Fort Drum.
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2023-08-16soldstatus $140,000
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2023-08-08soldstatus $140,000 Closed Sale or Rented 350-char remark
Show marketing remark (350 chars)
This 3 bedroom 1 bathroom house is now available after being in the family for 54 years. There is a large yard that is close to everything. The village hall/fire department, ball fields are all about one block away. There are stores close by. Also is only a short drive to Fort Drum. House is move in ready for the new owners. Come take a look today.
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2023-06-15historical Continue to Show- Under Contract 350-char remark
Show marketing remark (350 chars)
This 3 bedroom 1 bathroom house is now available after being in the family for 54 years. There is a large yard that is close to everything. The village hall/fire department, ball fields are all about one block away. There are stores close by. Also is only a short drive to Fort Drum. House is move in ready for the new owners. Come take a look today.
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2023-06-12price $141,200 350-char remark
Show marketing remark (350 chars)
This 3 bedroom 1 bathroom house is now available after being in the family for 54 years. There is a large yard that is close to everything. The village hall/fire department, ball fields are all about one block away. There are stores close by. Also is only a short drive to Fort Drum. House is move in ready for the new owners. Come take a look today.
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2023-06-07price $141,300 350-char remark
Show marketing remark (350 chars)
This 3 bedroom 1 bathroom house is now available after being in the family for 54 years. There is a large yard that is close to everything. The village hall/fire department, ball fields are all about one block away. There are stores close by. Also is only a short drive to Fort Drum. House is move in ready for the new owners. Come take a look today.
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2023-06-01$147,500 Active 350-char remark
Show marketing remark (350 chars)
This 3 bedroom 1 bathroom house is now available after being in the family for 54 years. There is a large yard that is close to everything. The village hall/fire department, ball fields are all about one block away. There are stores close by. Also is only a short drive to Fort Drum. House is move in ready for the new owners. Come take a look today.
ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot
backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.
Tax reassessment forecast NY · Partial reset (capped growth)
- Current annual tax
- $2,552 · $213/mo
- Projected year-2 tax
- $2,712 · $226/mo
- Expected delta
- +$160/yr (+$13/mo · 6.3%)
ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.
Climate risk First Street
- Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X · 0% chance over 30 yrs
- Wildfire 1/10 Low
- Heat 1/10 Low 7 d/yr ≥92°F today · 16 d/yr by 30 yrs out
- Wind 1/10 Low
- Air quality 2/10 Low 0 unhealthy d/yr today · 1 by 30 yrs out
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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi
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Taxation est. · year 1
- Rental income
- $16,709
- − Mortgage interest
- −$9,517
- − Property taxes
- −$2,552
- − Insurance
- −$850
- − Repairs & maintenance
- −$1,337
- − Management
- −$1,337
- − Depreciation
- −$4,943
- Taxable loss
- −$3,826
- Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
- +$918
- After-tax cash flow
- $25/yr
For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.
Schools (NCES district)
- District
- Carthage Central School District
- NCES district ID
- 3606630
- Math proficiency
- 30% ▼ -18.00%
- Reading proficiency
- 46% ▲ 2.00%
- Median HH income
- $48,450
- Composite
- 32.63/100
- National rank
- #5668
- State rank
- #539 of 590 in NY
Livability — West Carthage
- Score
- 61/100
- State rank
- #912
- US rank
- #17830
Category grades
Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.
Census & demographics
- Census place
- West Carthage, NY
- County
- Jefferson County · 47,417 people
- Metro
- Watertown-Fort Drum, NY
- Population (ZIP)
- 10,578
- Household income
- $63,120
- Rent vs Own
- Severe rent burden
- 379.0
Population outlook (Jefferson County) Hauer SSP2
- Today (2025)
- 111,748 people
- By 2030
- 109,370 · -2.1%
- By 2040
- 103,828 · -7.1%
- By 2050
- 98,523 · -11.8%
- By 2075
- 91,422 · -18.2%
- By 2100
- 78,214 · -30.0%
Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023
- Neighborhood character
- Predominantly White (83%)
- Race & ethnicity
- White 83% Two or more races 8% Hispanic / Latino 6% Black 2%
- Hispanic origin (detail)
- Mexican 1% Puerto Rican 2%
- Common ancestry
- Lithuanian 9% Romanian 3% Iranian 1%
- Foreign-born
- 4% · Canada
- Languages at home
- 95% English-only · Spanish 3% Tagalog/Filipino 1%
Political lean MEDSL · Jefferson
- 2024 margin
- Strong R (+23.6) · D 38.2% · R 61.8%
- 2008→2024 swing
- -18.3pp toward R · 2008: -5.3pp · 2024: -23.6pp
- All cycles
- 2024: R+23.6 2020: R+19.0 2016: R+22.4 2012: R+2.9 2008: R+5.3
Not yet ingested
- Civics
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Market trends
- HPI YoY
- ▲ 84.02%
- Current HPI
- 406.9439
- Rent YoY
- —
- Metro
- Watertown-Fort Drum, NY
- State GDP YoY
- ▲ 2.60%
- F500 in state
- 92
Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)
| Industry | F500 HQs | Revenue |
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| Financial Services | 10 | $950B |
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| Consumer Goods | 9 | $162B |
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| Insurance | 4 | $225B |
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| Telecommunications | 2 | $144B |
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| Pharmaceuticals | 2 | $112B |
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| Media / Entertainment | 2 | $69B |
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Price history
+15.2% since first listed7 events — show timeline
- 2025-08-15 Listed $169,900 CNYIS
- 2023-08-16 Sold (Public Records) $140,000 Public Records
- 2023-08-08 Sold (MLS) $140,000 CNYIS
- 2023-06-15 Contingent — CNYIS
- 2023-06-12 Price Changed $141,200 CNYIS
- 2023-06-07 Price Changed $141,300 CNYIS
- 2023-06-01 Listed $147,500 CNYIS
Property tax history
+1.3%/yrLatest (2025): $2,552 · +0.5% YoY. Source: county tax records.
Cash-flow waterfall
monthlySold comps — $/sqft
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