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12 Stone St
C- Composite 53.58
Why this score? — see what drove the C- grade

The composite is a weighted blend of 9 inputs, each scored 0–100. Each bar is that input's sub-score; the figure is the points it added to the 100-point composite (weight × sub-score).

  • ARV discount +15.0/15.0
  • Cash flow +10.9/30.0
  • Appreciation +10.0/10.0
  • Schools +3.3/10.0
  • 1% rule +3.2/10.0
  • DSCR +3.2/10.0
  • Livability +3.1/5.0
  • Rent growth +2.5/5.0
  • Condition / age +2.5/5.0

$169,900

12 Stone St · West Carthage, NY 13619
3 bd · 1.0 ba · 1,360 sqft · SingleFamily public records · 310 Days on market
Built 1870 0.33 ac lot $125/sqft · 25% below area Est $226k · 25% under

🖨 Deal sheet (PDF) 📄 Offer letter ✓ Due diligence

Listing remarks MLS

Charming village home located blocks from the local park, shopping & more! Enclosed front & back porches give a space to sit & relax while staying dry. Interior open floor plan offers a large living room, formal dining room, kitchen with breakfast bar that all flows together. 1st floor bedroom plus 1st floor laundry. Upstairs are 2 good sized bedrooms plus one with a large walk-in closet. An additional small nursery could also be converted to a walk-in closet. Full bath with tub unit completes the 2nd story. Hardwood floors, newer vinyl windows, metal roof & vinyl siding. Full dry basement for extra storage, newer furnace & water heater, 2 car detached garage with power. Large yard with firepit gives room to garden, play & enjoy the outdoors. Only 15 minutes to Fort Drum.

Key facts

  • Open floor plan
  • Full dry basement
  • Large walk-in closet

Tags

ENCLOSED FRONT PORCHESENCLOSED BACK PORCHESOPEN FLOOR PLANBREAKFAST BARLARGE WALK-IN CLOSETFULL DRY BASEMENT

Neighborhood map

Property Rental comp Retail Transit Schools Stadiums Fortune 500 · Circle radius: 3.0 mi
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What this means for you Summary

Snapshot

  • This is a 3-bed/1.0-bath single-family listed at $170k.

Deal economics

  • At list price, monthly cash flow is $-74 ($-893/yr) — negative.
  • To cash-flow at today's rent, offer at most $157k (7.7% below list).
  • To meet the 1% rule (rent ≥ 1% of price), the offer needs to be $139k (18.0% below list).
  • Recommended offer: $139k (18.0% below list) — sets the bar for 1% rule.
  • Cap rate 5.8% vs local median 4.3% in West Carthage — top-decile yield for the area; either an underpriced asset or a hidden risk that comps aren't pricing in. Stress-test before assuming the spread holds.

Location & tenants

  • Location reads 61/100 on livability (#912 in NY) — a middle-class / working-renter tenant base. Strengths: crime A, cost of living A-, housing B+; Watch: employment D+, health & safety D, amenities F.
  • Carthage Central School District (rural): math 30% / reading 46% proficiency, ranked #539 of 590 in NY (top 91%) — families likely to look elsewhere, expect single-tenant / working-renter base with shorter leases.
  • Zoned schools: West Carthage Elementary School (math 22% / reading 42%, grade F, #1,646 of 2,108 statewide, top 80%, 348 students, 51% FRL); Carthage Middle School (math 19% / reading 41%, grade F, #539 of 729 statewide, top 74%, 899 students, 51% FRL); Carthage Senior High School (math 92% / reading 72%, grade A, #452 of 1,100 statewide, top 44%, 815 students, 52% FRL) — zoned schools average 51% FRL vs 31% district-wide (20 pts higher); higher-poverty schools than district average — tighter screening recommended.
  • Market conditions: 78 active listings in the ZIP; 1 comparable units currently listed for rent nearby; 196 units permitted in Jefferson County in 2024 (0 in 5+ unit buildings).

Forward outlook

  • In year one you build about $18k of equity ($1k loan paydown + $17k appreciation (10.0% local appreciation)).
  • Jefferson County population projected at -12% by 2050 — secular population decline; favor cash flow + early exit over multi-decade hold.
  • At projected returns (10.0% appreciation + 3.0% rent growth), your $48k cash investment doubles in ~3 years — after that, you're playing with house money.
  • By year 3, paydown + projected appreciation supports a ~$46k cash-out refi (75% LTV) — recoverable capital for the next deal without selling this one.

Negotiation context

  • It's been on market 310 days — a 12% lower offer ($150k) is reasonable based on typical stale-listing flexibility.
  • 2 sale attempts since 3y ago with the ask held roughly flat each time — persistent listings suggest the price (not the market) is what's stuck; bring a comps-based counter.
  • Current owner paid $140k; 21% above their basis — modest negotiation headroom, anchor on the comps not their cost.

Risks & watch-outs

  • Watch-outs: built in 1870 — expect roof / HVAC / electrical / plumbing capex.
Recommended offer $139,239 (18.0% below list)

Questions for the listing agent

  1. What do current leases actually rent for vs. the listed asking? Can we see a recent rent roll and the last 12 months of T-12 income?
  2. It's been on market 310 days. Have you received any prior offers? Is the seller open to a 18% concession, seller financing, or rate buy-down credit?
  3. Built in 1870 — when were the roof, HVAC, electrical panel, plumbing, and water heater last replaced?
  4. Why hasn't it sold? Are there any deal-killer items the seller is aware of (foundation, flood, title, zoning, code violations)?
  5. Is there a deadline driving the sale (1031 exchange, divorce, estate, relocation)? That informs how much negotiation room exists.
  6. Schools are F-rated, which usually means shorter tenancies and higher turnover. Who's the typical renter profile here, and what's been the actual vacancy rate?
  7. What's the average days-on-market for RENTAL listings here right now (not sales)? A rising rental-DOM trend means longer vacancies and softer asking-rent achievability than the comps imply.
  8. What's the recent tenant-quality profile in this submarket — average credit score on applications, eviction rate, late-payment / NSF rate, and stable-employment percentage? A property-management company in the area should have these aggregated.
  9. How much new for-sale + rental construction is in the pipeline within 1–3 miles? Heavy new supply typically softens prices + rents 12–24 months out; constrained supply supports both.

Investment metrics

1% rule
0.82%
Cap rate
5.77%
Cash-on-cash
-1.88%
DSCR
0.92
GRM
10.2

CMA / ARV

ARV (median comp)
$226,134
List price
$169,900
Delta
-24.87%
Verdict
UNDERPRICED
Comps
20 within 1.0 mi
Show comp detail 12 sales within ~0.75 mi
Address Dist Beds/Ba Sqft Sold Price $/sf Match
29 Stone St 0.15mi 3/1.5 1,320 (-3%) 2mo $222,900 $169 84
32 Franklin St 0.19mi 3/1.0 1,400 (+3%) 7mo $164,600 $118 81
51 Champion St 0.34mi 3/1.0 1,392 (+2%) 0mo $215,000 $154 80
30 High St 0.06mi 4/2.0 (+1) 1,397 (+3%) 10mo $200,000 $143 76
22 Liberty St 0.22mi 3/1.5 1,472 (+8%) 2mo $185,300 $126 73
71 Champion St 0.34mi 3/2.0 1,317 (-3%) 8mo $143,000 $109 68
46 Liberty St 0.26mi 3/1.0 1,200 (-12%) 8mo $214,900 $179 62
89 Champion St 0.45mi 3/2.0 1,434 (+5%) 6mo $235,000 $164 61
26 Liberty St 0.21mi 3/1.5 1,536 (+13%) 9mo $185,500 $121 59
20392 County Route 45 0.35mi 4/1.0 (+1) 1,536 (+13%) 9mo $151,000 $98 50
43 N Broad St 0.50mi 2/1.5 (-1) 1,248 (-8%) 8mo $100,000 $80 49
228 Church St 0.74mi 4/2.0 (+1) 1,400 (+3%) 7mo $159,900 $114 46

Match score weights: distance 35% · size 25% · config 20% · recency 20%. Top-matched comps best support the ARV.

Projected returns pro-forma

10.0% appreciation · 3.0% rent growth · sell at horizon

5-year hold
IRR
22.9%
Equity multiple
2.85×
Total profit
$87,812
Equity at exit
$153,059
10-year hold
IRR
20.5%
Equity multiple
6.52×
Total profit
$262,361
Equity at exit
$330,078

Cash invested: $47,572 (down + closing). Projections, not guarantees.

Landlord ↔ Tenant lean methodology

Overall (STATE)
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly
State New York
15 Strongly Tenant-Friendly · D+10
County
— inherits STATE
City
— inherits STATE
NYC rent stabilization (~1M units); 2019 HSTPA strengthened tenant rights; courts deeply backlogged.

ZIP-level market 13619

Home prices YoY
26.0%
Active inventory
78
Price-to-rent
10.2×

Monthly cashflow live

Estimated rent
$1,392 medium interval (Pro) →
Mortgage (P&I)
$891
Tax from tax record
$213 /mo · $2,552/yr
Insurance
$71
HOA
$0
Vacancy / Maint / Mgmt
$292
Net cashflow
$-74

Break-even live

Break-even rent $1,487
Max offer price $156,748
Occupancy floor

Sensitivity live

Price -10% $22 -5% $-26 +0% $-74 +5% $-123 +10% $-171
Rent -10% $-184 -5% $-129 +0% $-74 +5% $-19 +10% $36
Rate -1.0pp $11 -0.5pp $-31 base $-74 +0.5pp $-118 +1.0pp $-163

UW: 25.0% down · 7.5% · 30yr · 1.5% tax · 5.0% vac · 8.0% maint · 8.0% mgmt

Financing live

Cash to close

Down payment
$42,475
Closing costs
$5,097
Reserves months
Total cash needed

Loan-product check · same deal, 3 products live

Conventional

25% down · 7.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Personal DTI + credit; lowest rate.

DSCR

20% down · 8.5% · 30yr

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

No personal income docs; deal must DSCR.

Hard money

10% down · 12.0% · 12mo

Down + closing
Monthly P&I
Monthly cashflow
DSCR
Eligible?

Short-term bridge; refi at stabilization.

Rent comps 1 comps

AddressBedsBaths SqftRent$/sqft DOM Units Dist
719 Alexandria St Unit 719 Carthage, NY 3.0 1.0 1100 $995 $0.90 45d 1 0.93mi

Listing history 24 events

  1. 2026-06-21
    days on market $169,900 Active 310 DOM
  2. 2026-06-19
    days on market $169,900 Active 308 DOM
  3. 2026-06-18
    days on market $169,900 Active 307 DOM
  4. 2026-06-17
    days on market $169,900 Active 306 DOM
  5. 2026-06-16
    days on market $169,900 Active 305 DOM
  6. 2026-06-15
    days on market $169,900 Active 304 DOM
  7. 2026-06-14
    days on market $169,900 Active 302 DOM
  8. 2026-06-12
    days on market $169,900 Active 301 DOM
  9. 2026-06-09
    days on market $169,900 Active 298 DOM
  10. 2026-06-08
    days on market $169,900 Active 297 DOM
  11. 2026-06-07
    days on market $169,900 Active 296 DOM
  12. 2026-06-05
    days on market $169,900 Active 293 DOM
  13. 2026-06-03
    days on market $169,900 Active 292 DOM
  14. 2026-06-02
    days on market $169,900 Active 291 DOM
  15. 2026-06-01
    days on market $169,900 Active 290 DOM
  16. 2026-05-31
    days on market $169,900 Active 289 DOM
  17. 2026-05-30
    days on market $169,900 Active 288 DOM
  18. 2025-08-15
    listed $169,900 Active 818-char remark
    Show marketing remark (818 chars)

    Charming village home located blocks from the local park, shopping & more! Enclosed front & back porches give a space to sit & relax while staying dry. Interior open floor plan offers a large living room, formal dining room, kitchen with breakfast bar that all flows together. 1st floor bedroom plus 1st floor laundry. Upstairs are 2 good sized bedrooms plus one with a large walk-in closet. An additional small nursery could also be converted to a walk-in closet. Full bath with tub unit completes the 2nd story. Hardwood floors, newer vinyl windows, metal roof & vinyl siding. Full dry basement for extra storage, newer furnace & water heater, 2 car detached garage with power. Large yard with firepit gives room to garden, play & enjoy the outdoors. Only 15 minutes to Fort Drum.

  19. 2023-08-16
    soldstatus $140,000
  20. 2023-08-08
    soldstatus $140,000 Closed Sale or Rented 350-char remark
    Show marketing remark (350 chars)

    This 3 bedroom 1 bathroom house is now available after being in the family for 54 years. There is a large yard that is close to everything. The village hall/fire department, ball fields are all about one block away. There are stores close by. Also is only a short drive to Fort Drum. House is move in ready for the new owners. Come take a look today.

  21. 2023-06-15
    historical Continue to Show- Under Contract 350-char remark
    Show marketing remark (350 chars)

    This 3 bedroom 1 bathroom house is now available after being in the family for 54 years. There is a large yard that is close to everything. The village hall/fire department, ball fields are all about one block away. There are stores close by. Also is only a short drive to Fort Drum. House is move in ready for the new owners. Come take a look today.

  22. 2023-06-12
    price $141,200 350-char remark
    Show marketing remark (350 chars)

    This 3 bedroom 1 bathroom house is now available after being in the family for 54 years. There is a large yard that is close to everything. The village hall/fire department, ball fields are all about one block away. There are stores close by. Also is only a short drive to Fort Drum. House is move in ready for the new owners. Come take a look today.

  23. 2023-06-07
    price $141,300 350-char remark
    Show marketing remark (350 chars)

    This 3 bedroom 1 bathroom house is now available after being in the family for 54 years. There is a large yard that is close to everything. The village hall/fire department, ball fields are all about one block away. There are stores close by. Also is only a short drive to Fort Drum. House is move in ready for the new owners. Come take a look today.

  24. 2023-06-01
    listed $147,500 Active 350-char remark
    Show marketing remark (350 chars)

    This 3 bedroom 1 bathroom house is now available after being in the family for 54 years. There is a large yard that is close to everything. The village hall/fire department, ball fields are all about one block away. There are stores close by. Also is only a short drive to Fort Drum. House is move in ready for the new owners. Come take a look today.

ⓘ Source: listings_history table (triggers on properties + properties_extension) + one-shot backfill from property_details.listing_events for pre-trigger history.

Tax reassessment forecast NY · Partial reset (capped growth)

Current annual tax
$2,552 · $213/mo
Projected year-2 tax
$2,712 · $226/mo
Expected delta
+$160/yr (+$13/mo · 6.3%)

ⓘ Screening estimate from a state-policy table — verify with the county assessor before closing.

Climate risk First Street

  • 🌊 Flood 1/10 Low FEMA zone X · 0% chance over 30 yrs
  • 🔥 Wildfire 1/10 Low
  • 🌡 Heat 1/10 Low 7 d/yr ≥92°F today · 16 d/yr by 30 yrs out
  • 💨 Wind 1/10 Low
  • 🫁 Air quality 2/10 Low 0 unhealthy d/yr today · 1 by 30 yrs out

Nearby sold comps map

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Walkable amenities ~0.75 mi

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Taxation est. · year 1

Rental income
$16,709
− Mortgage interest
−$9,517
− Property taxes
−$2,552
− Insurance
−$850
− Repairs & maintenance
−$1,337
− Management
−$1,337
− Depreciation
−$4,943
Taxable loss
−$3,826
combined federal + state — saved on this device
Est. tax savings @ 24.0%
+$918
After-tax cash flow
$25/yr

For passive investors: Depreciation is non-cash, so a rental often shows a tax loss while cash-flowing — sheltering income. Rental losses are passive: they offset passive income freely, and up to $25,000/yr can offset ordinary (W-2) income if you actively participate and your MAGI is under $100k (phasing out to $0 by $150k); unused losses carry forward. On sale, claimed depreciation is recaptured at up to 25%, and gains may owe capital-gains tax (a 1031 exchange can defer both). Figures are a year-1 estimate at your 24.0% rate — not tax advice; consult a CPA.

Schools (NCES district)

District
Carthage Central School District
NCES district ID
3606630
Math proficiency
30% ▼ -18.00%
Reading proficiency
46% ▲ 2.00%
Median HH income
$48,450
Composite
32.63/100
National rank
#5668
State rank
#539 of 590 in NY

Livability — West Carthage

Score
61/100
State rank
#912
US rank
#17830

Category grades

Amenities F Commute F Cost of living A- Crime A Employment D+ Housing B+ Health & safety D User ratings A

Schools grade is shown separately in the Schools card above.

Census & demographics

Census place
West Carthage, NY
County
Jefferson County · 47,417 people
Metro
Watertown-Fort Drum, NY
Population (ZIP)
10,578
Household income
$63,120
Rent vs Own
43.7% rent · 56.3% own
Severe rent burden
379.0

Population outlook (Jefferson County) Hauer SSP2

Today (2025)
111,748 people
By 2030
109,370 · -2.1%
By 2040
103,828 · -7.1%
By 2050
98,523 · -11.8%
By 2075
91,422 · -18.2%
By 2100
78,214 · -30.0%

Race, ethnicity, and origin ACS 2023

Neighborhood character
Predominantly White (83%)
Race & ethnicity
White 83% Two or more races 8% Hispanic / Latino 6% Black 2%
Hispanic origin (detail)
Mexican 1% Puerto Rican 2%
Common ancestry
Lithuanian 9% Romanian 3% Iranian 1%
Foreign-born
4% · Canada
Languages at home
95% English-only · Spanish 3% Tagalog/Filipino 1%

Political lean MEDSL · Jefferson

2024 margin
Strong R (+23.6) · D 38.2% · R 61.8%
2008→2024 swing
-18.3pp toward R · 2008: -5.3pp · 2024: -23.6pp
All cycles
2024: R+23.6 2020: R+19.0 2016: R+22.4 2012: R+2.9 2008: R+5.3

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Civics

Market trends

HPI YoY
▲ 84.02%
Current HPI
406.9439
Rent YoY
Metro
Watertown-Fort Drum, NY
State GDP YoY
▲ 2.60%
F500 in state
92

Industry mix (Fortune 500 HQ in NY)

Industry F500 HQs Revenue

Price history

+15.2% since first listed
7 events — show timeline
  • 2025-08-15 Listed $169,900 CNYIS
  • 2023-08-16 Sold (Public Records) $140,000 Public Records
  • 2023-08-08 Sold (MLS) $140,000 CNYIS
  • 2023-06-15 Contingent CNYIS
  • 2023-06-12 Price Changed $141,200 CNYIS
  • 2023-06-07 Price Changed $141,300 CNYIS
  • 2023-06-01 Listed $147,500 CNYIS

Property tax history

+1.3%/yr

Latest (2025): $2,552 · +0.5% YoY. Source: county tax records.

Cash-flow waterfall

monthly

Sold comps — $/sqft

last 12 mo · ≤1 mi

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